Procedure following Heart Attack
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hi All
suffered a heart attack last July. Not flown since and,in fact, forgot to mention this to CAA as my licence also expired in June 2012
What is the process to get the licence back? I went to a medical doctor today to get my Class 2 renewed and he handed me a piece of paper (Class 1/2 certification - Coronary artery disease) and asked me to see my GP for referral to a heart specialist. I will see the doctor in the next few days.
However, what should I expect/ prepare in order to get my Class 2?
thanks
suffered a heart attack last July. Not flown since and,in fact, forgot to mention this to CAA as my licence also expired in June 2012
What is the process to get the licence back? I went to a medical doctor today to get my Class 2 renewed and he handed me a piece of paper (Class 1/2 certification - Coronary artery disease) and asked me to see my GP for referral to a heart specialist. I will see the doctor in the next few days.
However, what should I expect/ prepare in order to get my Class 2?
thanks
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Search the CAA website - somewhere you will find a list of approved (by them) cardiac specialists. You will have to have a private consultation with one of them, so its going to cost you. Your GP will do the referral to the consultant.
Whether or not you get your medical back will depend a lot on the exact nature of the heart condition that the attack has left you with. Surprisingly, if you are doing well it may not be a problem.
If you fly for recreation, which I assume to be the case, then be aware that the medical requirements for the NPPL are less stringent, so that may be an option for Plan B.
Good luck!
Whether or not you get your medical back will depend a lot on the exact nature of the heart condition that the attack has left you with. Surprisingly, if you are doing well it may not be a problem.
If you fly for recreation, which I assume to be the case, then be aware that the medical requirements for the NPPL are less stringent, so that may be an option for Plan B.
Good luck!
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I am sorry but none of us here know what we are talking about me included!
You are far better posting in the medical section where there are trained and qualified Doctors and AMEs who will respond.
Regardless all the best as this is one of the few careers/hobbies where you can be a pilot one day and a non pilot the next!
I wonder how other professions would feel if say a Lawyer, Banker, Doctor had to attend a medical to be told your no longer a Lawyer , Banker, Doctor etc?
Pace
I am sorry but none of us here know what we are talking about me included!
You are far better posting in the medical section where there are trained and qualified Doctors and AMEs who will respond.
Regardless all the best as this is one of the few careers/hobbies where you can be a pilot one day and a non pilot the next!
I wonder how other professions would feel if say a Lawyer, Banker, Doctor had to attend a medical to be told your no longer a Lawyer , Banker, Doctor etc?
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Harsh but funny, all the same - if you can't take a joke, shouldn't have joined....
My AME some years back said he would like to have a look at an exercise ECG. I was determined to pass, so spent 3 weeks practicing by going up and down the stairs at home, got able to ascend and descend 30 times without stopping.....
and knackered my knees....
So a few years later (really pushing my luck now - friends said "Mary, are they still letting you instruct?" "Sure, why not?" I replied. "Aren't you approaching seventy?" "No," says I, being a smartass, " its getting further away all the time...."
And the knee still giving me gyp big time, went in to the Nuffield and had a knee replacement - titanium, nothing but the best on the NHS. Unfortunately a complication made the decision for me, and I handed in my medical. Anno domini gets you in the end. Life's a bitch, and then you die.
My AME some years back said he would like to have a look at an exercise ECG. I was determined to pass, so spent 3 weeks practicing by going up and down the stairs at home, got able to ascend and descend 30 times without stopping.....
and knackered my knees....
So a few years later (really pushing my luck now - friends said "Mary, are they still letting you instruct?" "Sure, why not?" I replied. "Aren't you approaching seventy?" "No," says I, being a smartass, " its getting further away all the time...."
And the knee still giving me gyp big time, went in to the Nuffield and had a knee replacement - titanium, nothing but the best on the NHS. Unfortunately a complication made the decision for me, and I handed in my medical. Anno domini gets you in the end. Life's a bitch, and then you die.
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(For a class 2 medical holder) you don't need to see a 'CAA approved' cardiologist. Any consultant cardiologist should be able to provide a report for your AME. You'll likely need to pay for the consult however and any tests needed to meet the CAA requirements (it's unlikely to be able to cover this fromt he confines of a routine NHS clinic appointment for example). Sure those on the old list of CAA approved cardiologists will be familiar with the requirements but you needn't be restricted to that short list. if you take the current flow chart with you, any cardiologist will be able to determine if you fulfil the requirements (provided they have access to the relevant information about you) and prepare a report on it.
The current flow chart is at
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2499/Coron...tervention.pdf
Happy to help further as needed. I occasionally do this kind of review for fellow aviators (in my capacity as a cardiologist!)
JC
The current flow chart is at
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2499/Coron...tervention.pdf
Happy to help further as needed. I occasionally do this kind of review for fellow aviators (in my capacity as a cardiologist!)
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A friend is in this situation. And I think it depends on the damage sustained. After a few tests he now has to pass the Bruce Protocol stress ECG and he gets his class 2 back. I'd guess no two cases are the same.
Good luck.
Good luck.
I wonder how other professions would feel if say a Lawyer, Banker, Doctor had to attend a medical to be told your no longer a Lawyer , Banker, Doctor etc?
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Thanks for the useful information guys. I am going to my doctor tomorrow and ask for a referral.
Thing is, my heart has been sorted out now so I am in a better position and I suppose the twice a day in the gym which I did for about a year, helped me to survive.
Will keep you posted!
Thing is, my heart has been sorted out now so I am in a better position and I suppose the twice a day in the gym which I did for about a year, helped me to survive.
Will keep you posted!
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Procedure following Heart Attack
I can take a joke thank you. In fact I'm very good at telling them too.
Just thought a serious thing like what killed half my family isnt that funny... Especially when you can loose your flying licence over it
Would you like to loose your licences?
Im sure like most of us the answer is no.... So on that note, no its a crap joke really isnt it?
Didnt see on the small print the need to "take a joke" or not to sign up either?
Now i have opened myself to an onslaught of abuse..... Im ready now..... Fire away
Just thought a serious thing like what killed half my family isnt that funny... Especially when you can loose your flying licence over it
Would you like to loose your licences?
Im sure like most of us the answer is no.... So on that note, no its a crap joke really isnt it?
Didnt see on the small print the need to "take a joke" or not to sign up either?
Now i have opened myself to an onslaught of abuse..... Im ready now..... Fire away
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After a few months of absolute stress I was really scared at my first class medical a couple of days ago that my BP would be through the roof or some other item would have changed into a no go zone!
I was stunned that I sailed through with glowing comments
As I posted earlier this is one of the few professions/hobbies where you can walk into the AMEs office one day as a pilot and walk out as an ex pilot
Often because you have through no fault of your own a bad set of genes.
Hope all works out ok in your case
Pace
After a few months of absolute stress I was really scared at my first class medical a couple of days ago that my BP would be through the roof or some other item would have changed into a no go zone!
I was stunned that I sailed through with glowing comments
As I posted earlier this is one of the few professions/hobbies where you can walk into the AMEs office one day as a pilot and walk out as an ex pilot
Often because you have through no fault of your own a bad set of genes.
Hope all works out ok in your case
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In my experience, the AME's will do everything they can to help you get your medical back if it is suspended on medical grounds - mine has certainly been extremely helpful.
Anyway the CAA would prefer you were treated for a condition but healthy, than untreated and possibly a risk - as would we all I presume.
If my medical ever goes for good, then I'll hang up the wings and buy a boat again
Good luck
Anyway the CAA would prefer you were treated for a condition but healthy, than untreated and possibly a risk - as would we all I presume.
If my medical ever goes for good, then I'll hang up the wings and buy a boat again
Good luck
I had my PPL withdrawn by the CAA following a heart attack this year. I was out for a walk and simply fell down, no chest pains or any other symptoms. After intervention by family & friends came around after 10 minutes to the sound of 'Staying Alive' Had I been flying it would have been the end of me and (no doubt) the dozens of terrified and screaming children in the school playground.
With various bits of stenting and assorted medication I am now back to normal but I recognise that the risk of another episode is greater than average. I would dearly love to get back in the air again but is this being somewhat selfish? Those kids are still in the playground. Giving it some thought I have decided to hang up the headset. The challenge now is to find something to replace aviation, nothing springs to mind at the moment but something will turn up. GA is a great pastime but it's not everything, I feel greatly privileged to have been able to fly - now time to move on.
With various bits of stenting and assorted medication I am now back to normal but I recognise that the risk of another episode is greater than average. I would dearly love to get back in the air again but is this being somewhat selfish? Those kids are still in the playground. Giving it some thought I have decided to hang up the headset. The challenge now is to find something to replace aviation, nothing springs to mind at the moment but something will turn up. GA is a great pastime but it's not everything, I feel greatly privileged to have been able to fly - now time to move on.
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Dear Pilot Lyons - Sorry to hear about your family. I presume you are taking steps to avoid a premature exit, like cutting down on the fags and the beer and the stress, etc etc.
In case you were so annoyed by my remarks that you didn't read the entire post, you may realise that I DID have to hand in my license.....
Tone, you are a sensible and responsible person, and STILL A PILOT. This is something you will always be; as I am still a pilot. Just take somebody with you as a safety pilot, good company. As I still do.
Glider pilots who are getting older often invest in a high performance two-seater; so they can still fly with a safety pilot should some problem with the ticker turn up.
As far as being able to take a joke, when you have accepted that you will not live forever, and can still see the funny side of life, your time remaining on the planet will still be pleasantly amusing.....
In case you were so annoyed by my remarks that you didn't read the entire post, you may realise that I DID have to hand in my license.....
Tone, you are a sensible and responsible person, and STILL A PILOT. This is something you will always be; as I am still a pilot. Just take somebody with you as a safety pilot, good company. As I still do.
Glider pilots who are getting older often invest in a high performance two-seater; so they can still fly with a safety pilot should some problem with the ticker turn up.
As far as being able to take a joke, when you have accepted that you will not live forever, and can still see the funny side of life, your time remaining on the planet will still be pleasantly amusing.....
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Yes of course we are all going to die and loose our medicals, hopefully loosing our medicals happens after the dying bit
then we wont know anything about it
sadly some loose their medicals for no reason of their own due to a bad throw of the dice on the genetic front.
Some at 40 some at 50 some at 60 some at 70 some at 80 some at 90!!!
feel sorry for those that do at 40
Pace
Yes of course we are all going to die and loose our medicals, hopefully loosing our medicals happens after the dying bit
then we wont know anything about it sadly some loose their medicals for no reason of their own due to a bad throw of the dice on the genetic front.
Some at 40 some at 50 some at 60 some at 70 some at 80 some at 90!!!
feel sorry for those that do at 40
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