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Old 24th Mar 2013, 15:01
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They did indeed but on leaving the USA you have to comply with International regulations which include Radio Licences!

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International regulations or local regulations? I know that the UK requires a radio licence; however, I just need to get a UK licence, not an American one...
Now I am really confused, I have an N reg aircraft bought in the US which did not have an FCC radio license which is understandable, I brought it to the UK and fly it on a FAA PPL upon its arrival I applied for and send a cheque in for 25 quid for a UK radio license, the cheque was returned and i was told I don't need one, so I have neither a US or Uk radio license. Is it perhaps because my aircraft is a base VFR with a one comms radio but no nav radio equipment such as vor/loc,adf,loran, dme etc ?

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Old 24th Mar 2013, 15:38
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piperboy, it's YOU who needs the FCC license! Sending money to the CAA won't help, the FCC want your hard earned cash ( IIRC 60 bucks). And yes, N-reg outside the US, you need one. No big deal, see my post above.
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 18:57
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Another point often missed, is your FAA PPL a stand alone licence or has it been issued on the strength of a foreign licence.
No its a straightforward FAA PPL issued in the 90,s when they used your social security number as your pilots license number (this was before the identity fraudsters caught on to this and had a field day with pilots credit ratings)

I,m gonna get the license applied for Monday
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 19:09
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Where does it say that you can't operate a US-registered airplane outside the US on a §61.75 certificate? (If that's what you meant.)
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 19:55
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Originally Posted by sapperkenno
Where does it say that you can't operate a US-registered airplane outside the US on a §61.75 certificate? (If that's what you meant.)
Just to be clear on the rules for n-reg operators outside the US.
  1. You must normally have an FAA pilots licence (see point 4)
  2. This licence can be stand alone or 61.75
  3. The 61.75 licence gives the same privileges as a normal licence. EXCEPT - if there are restrictions on your foreign licence (as in written on your foreign licence) like NO NIGHT FLIGHT then these restrictions apply to your 61.75 licence (I have seen, but don't have to hand, FAA documentation that specifically addresses the issue of Australian 'type' specific restrictions and these do not appear on the licence and therefore do not apply to a 61.75 FAA PPL)
  4. You can fly an N-reg without a FAA licence as well if you have a licence issued by the state (and the FAA has said EASA is not a state) in which you are flying (so a UK CAA issued licence lets you fly an N-reg in the UK ONLY)
  5. Your aircraft must have a radio station licence if it has any radios in it and is operated outside the US
  6. You as a pilot must have a radio licence if you operate a radio in an N-reg outside the US
  7. Both of these are pure paperwork licences (fill in form and send money)
Within EASA there is a complex set of rules with phased implementations (with unclear take up of the phasing across Europe) that requires in addition an EASA licence (and medical) to operate any foreign reg (including an n-reg) if the operator (not defined) is established (not defined) in an EASA country.

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Old 25th Mar 2013, 05:11
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On FAA and radio licences - I own an N reg airplane which I fly on an FAA licence in Barbados (the trust is SAC from the UK - go figure!).

I was issued a radio licence for the airplane for when it left the US - it is no a personal radio operator licence but rather a licence for the airplane to be a "radio station" - it was not needed by the US authorities for use in the US but rather so as not to possibly break the laws of the islands I passed through flying the airplane down here.
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Old 25th Mar 2013, 17:24
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Suggest you read the following thread on the need for a FCC radio license:
http://www.pprune.org/north-america/...rtificate.html
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