Little B@st@rds!!!!!
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Little B@st@rds!!!!!
My car was stolen this morning. I drove to the farm at 4am and sometime between then and 6.30am some nasty little sods came into the farm office, took my keys and drove off with my car! The police reckon it was taken as a getaway vehicle as it fits with an attempted cable theft at around the same time. They'd been seen and had then got their car stuck so legged it across the fields. Chances are they spotted the farm, took a chance, nipped into the office and away they went. There were two of us working and we were both in and out the office all the time ... so they had some nerve!
I've just recently been to a couple of local airfields to find out about renewing my ratings .... So my licence and logbooks were in the car along with my wallet ect.
Now what???? I guess I have to ring the CAA about the loss of my licence, but what happens about my logbook records from a legal point of view? I don't have any sort of back ups (kept meaning too, but never did). I know roughly what total hours but I can't remember stuff like instrument time from when I did an IMC or the split between TMG and SEP. What about proof of flying the stuff I've flown that now require evidence of "differences" training or experience?
I'm hoping I might get it back, but chances don't look great
SS
I've just recently been to a couple of local airfields to find out about renewing my ratings .... So my licence and logbooks were in the car along with my wallet ect.
Now what???? I guess I have to ring the CAA about the loss of my licence, but what happens about my logbook records from a legal point of view? I don't have any sort of back ups (kept meaning too, but never did). I know roughly what total hours but I can't remember stuff like instrument time from when I did an IMC or the split between TMG and SEP. What about proof of flying the stuff I've flown that now require evidence of "differences" training or experience?
I'm hoping I might get it back, but chances don't look great
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Well there was a guy a few years ago, who was getting a bit weeded off with his car being tampered with at a railway station car park. Being electrical savvy, he rigged up a coil etc., so if anyone touched his car they got a good belt.
Apparently some little Hitler of a "parking operative" tried the door. He got such a belt I believe his eyes stuck out about an inch on receiving current. Guess what, the car owner was done for assault.
You just have to let the little b
s get on with it and not to interfere.
Apparently some little Hitler of a "parking operative" tried the door. He got such a belt I believe his eyes stuck out about an inch on receiving current. Guess what, the car owner was done for assault.
You just have to let the little b
s get on with it and not to interfere.
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Local radio, (small) reward for safe return of logbook no questions asked. It has no value to anyone but you.
Worked for a mate of mine when his bag was nicked in coventry.
Problem you have is if the car was taken as a getaway from a botched crime then they've probably torched it.
Worked for a mate of mine when his bag was nicked in coventry.
Problem you have is if the car was taken as a getaway from a botched crime then they've probably torched it.
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Biggest concern of the police was that my shotgun licence and a few cartridges were in it. They then came to see my shotgun cabinet and guns and have advised me to be extra vigilant in case the perps come to the house looking to steal them .... They might get more than they bargained for if they do!
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Little B@st@rds!!!!!
Stick a few dozen pellets ip their arse on the way out if the come back...... Give them a taste of prison life (hurts to sit down 
before they get there........
Mind you, if its in the uk you would more than likely be the one being sent down!
before they get there........Mind you, if its in the uk you would more than likely be the one being sent down!
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Never shoot them in the arse, only in the front. This demonstrates they were coming to get you and you shot in self-defence. If you shoot them in the arse they were running away and you shot them because you wanted to....
You will not like the outcome.
You will not like the outcome.
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You will have to build up records to the best of your knowledge as well as any records held by your flying school! Make up a new log, trundle down to a solicitor and swear an afi david ( If I have spelled it right then you are good to go.
Record the police crime number in the log too
Not sure if you then need to send it off to the CAA for approval?
Pace
Record the police crime number in the log too
Not sure if you then need to send it off to the CAA for approval?
Pace
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Been there. Bastards is too good a word. I got my car back, but the logbook and textbooks were chucked in a ditch or something.
Reconstructed as much as possible from the club records....as it was only a gliding logbook didn't matter for a license.... but from then on I made copies of EVERYTHING.
Reconstructed as much as possible from the club records....as it was only a gliding logbook didn't matter for a license.... but from then on I made copies of EVERYTHING.
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I haven't been at a flying school for years Pace. I've been flying since 1986 and since around the mid 90's it's all been in LAA types from farm strips.
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I haven't been at a flying school for years Pace. I've been flying since 1986 and since around the mid 90's it's all been in LAA types from farm strips
Explain the situation to the CAA and ask them what to do. You must have a list of aircraft you have flown? or owned? Record those! You remember roughly how many hours you have?
Fill it all into a new log book " To the best of your knowledge" and swear an Afi David with a solicitor that to the best of your knowledge the details you have filled in the log book are true and accurate.
Maybe someone who has been through this can detail what they did as you wont be the first or the last.
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its just do as PAce says. Have a good estimate and then get it signed off.
If your just flying for pleasure it really doesn;t matter as long as you do enough hours after you start your new log book to statisfy the revalidation requirements of you license.
Maybe though you can start an elelctronic log book as well when you start your new paper one.
If your just flying for pleasure it really doesn;t matter as long as you do enough hours after you start your new log book to statisfy the revalidation requirements of you license.
Maybe though you can start an elelctronic log book as well when you start your new paper one.
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If you have held a CAA licence for a number of years then your medical records and declaration will show the total time to date and hours flown in last 12 months. Your AME and the CAA should have this data on file.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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Ah'm jist sayin.....
I'm not defending the ****ers who stole your car, but......
It's not their fault that you don't have your logbook. You left it in the car and you didn't have a safety copy.
You should always have a copy of your logbook, how hard is it to use your phone to take a photo of it after each entry or at least once a month?
There are loads of ways you could have lost it, not involving crime. You could be involved in a bump where the car catches fire or ends up in a river and the book gets destroyed. You could have a house fire or flood, or maybe just drive away with your bag on the roof of the car and it ends up in a bin.
It wouldn't be the first time if a door blew open in flight and the bag made a rapid descent end was never seen again.
So, lets all take five minutes to photograph our logbooks today.
It's not their fault that you don't have your logbook. You left it in the car and you didn't have a safety copy.
You should always have a copy of your logbook, how hard is it to use your phone to take a photo of it after each entry or at least once a month?
There are loads of ways you could have lost it, not involving crime. You could be involved in a bump where the car catches fire or ends up in a river and the book gets destroyed. You could have a house fire or flood, or maybe just drive away with your bag on the roof of the car and it ends up in a bin.
It wouldn't be the first time if a door blew open in flight and the bag made a rapid descent end was never seen again.
So, lets all take five minutes to photograph our logbooks today.
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Originally Posted by airpolice
It's not their fault that you don't have your logbook.
It may not be their fault that ss doesn't have a copy, and I'm sure your advice in that regard is hardly needed now, but the fault for the theft lies firmly with the scrotes - no question.
There's a disappointing theme sometimes from the rozzerhood that a crime victim is somehow at fault if they have nice things. It simply muddies the waters; we must be absolutely clear that a crook is a crook.
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Airpolice, that is the biggest pile of utter ****e I have read for some time.
Do you really believe that the bloody thieving bastards are not responsible?
Do you have a copy of everything important to you?
If so then I suggest that you must really be a policeman.
Do you really believe that the bloody thieving bastards are not responsible?
Do you have a copy of everything important to you?
If so then I suggest
that you must really be a policeman.
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It's not their fault that you don't have your logbook. You left it in the car and you didn't have a safety copy.
If something is STOLEN it is absolutely the fault of the thief, and I don't give a rats arse what type of background or upbringing / disadvantage they may or may not have had. I don't care if the STOLEN thing was left in full view for all to see, it doesn't mean it is available to take.
That's why there are still some places on this earth where people can go out and leave their houses unlocked and keys in the ignition, because potential scrotes know the risk reward ratio is not in their favour, unlike here, where the victim is pilloried for daring to have things worth stealing.