Nppl
Joined: Feb 2000
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 17,522
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From: England
I cannot see how the NPPL is reverse snobbery. Please elaborate.
The RNAV and IF parts of the JAA PPL are somewhat problematic. It could be argued that its just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
When I did a PPL in 1991 I was not taught ADF or VOR at all.
Whilst more training is always welcome. Its a matter of what you can safely do without. The CAA and many many qualified Flying Instructors believe the NPPL syllabus contains all the necessary content commensurate with flight safety.
You will just have to trust that view I am afraid.
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The RNAV and IF parts of the JAA PPL are somewhat problematic. It could be argued that its just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
When I did a PPL in 1991 I was not taught ADF or VOR at all.
Whilst more training is always welcome. Its a matter of what you can safely do without. The CAA and many many qualified Flying Instructors believe the NPPL syllabus contains all the necessary content commensurate with flight safety.
You will just have to trust that view I am afraid.
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Joined: May 1999
Aviation Qualifications: ATP+Mil
Posts: 27,401
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Whilst it used to be the undeniable right of every Wannabe to moan about the CAA, that's no longer appropriate in this day and age. The new attitude of industry consultation and willingness to negotiate is a total change to the old days. As an example, go and buy- for only £5 - the new LAS ORS book. It gives Wannabes everything they need to know about the requirements as it includes CAP53, CAP54, all the GIDs, most important AICs, GA Safety Sense leaflets, etc, etc all in on easy-to-read format.
I'm sure that the NPPL will help a lot of people to learn to fly in bite-size chunks gaining credit for whatever they've done previously. Plus it will also allow Day VFR flight to be conducted by those who would otherwise never have been able to. Those are the objectives I've been interested in achieving - nothing to do with gaining more income for my RF as we will only be training to JAR/FCL standard but will facilitate NPPL issue for those unable to meet JAR Class 2 medical standards. That isn't an advert as my RF has restricted membership - so please don't e-mail and ask for more details!
The only whinges seem to be coming from the "Mummy, Mummy - 'snotfair. I had to pay more for my licence than the NPPL holder will and I'll thqueam and thqueam about it until I'm thick. WAAAH" brigade.
I'm sure that the NPPL will help a lot of people to learn to fly in bite-size chunks gaining credit for whatever they've done previously. Plus it will also allow Day VFR flight to be conducted by those who would otherwise never have been able to. Those are the objectives I've been interested in achieving - nothing to do with gaining more income for my RF as we will only be training to JAR/FCL standard but will facilitate NPPL issue for those unable to meet JAR Class 2 medical standards. That isn't an advert as my RF has restricted membership - so please don't e-mail and ask for more details!
The only whinges seem to be coming from the "Mummy, Mummy - 'snotfair. I had to pay more for my licence than the NPPL holder will and I'll thqueam and thqueam about it until I'm thick. WAAAH" brigade.
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 510
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From: UK
BEagle,
Up till
I had high respect for your endeavours and opinion. I didn't necessarily agree with all you say, but I seem to remember somewhere that I have a right to do that.
To class everyone who disagrees with you in the bracket you have, shows your attitude to other people ideas.
Perhaps you should re-read some of the posts made here. It's disappointing that someone who has had such involvement in the nppl can perceive everyone who disagrees with you as you do.
Long Final.
Up till
The only whinges seem to be coming from the "Mummy, Mummy - 'snotfair. I had to pay more for my licence than the NPPL holder will and I'll thqueam and thqueam about it until I'm thick. WAAAH" brigade.
To class everyone who disagrees with you in the bracket you have, shows your attitude to other people ideas.
Perhaps you should re-read some of the posts made here. It's disappointing that someone who has had such involvement in the nppl can perceive everyone who disagrees with you as you do.
Long Final.
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 49
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From: UK
The cost at this moment is inhibative of GA. I would rather see more flying in the UK. However the standard of Airmanship at this time is IMHO quite poor. I am not for any moment discouraging people with hearing or eye sight impairment, that would be rude of me to say that.
However those who are shouting about the good old days, are generally the good old boys, who winge and complain about everybody else, but to put it bluntly are terrible pilots.
I will stand by those that say we all make mistakes but many seem to be comming from those with grandfather rights.
I will put my hands up and say that I have made some terrible mistakes but I only make them once... I dont go looking for excuses, I look for a remedy.
Will the NPPL bring back many of these dinosaurs.
However those who are shouting about the good old days, are generally the good old boys, who winge and complain about everybody else, but to put it bluntly are terrible pilots.
I will stand by those that say we all make mistakes but many seem to be comming from those with grandfather rights.
I will put my hands up and say that I have made some terrible mistakes but I only make them once... I dont go looking for excuses, I look for a remedy.
Will the NPPL bring back many of these dinosaurs.
