C150 height limitations
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C150 height limitations
Hi All,
A guy at work recently won a raffle, the prize for which is an hour's flight with me. Luckily he's looking forward to it but at 6'5", he's a pretty tall fella. My previous PAX have been nowhere near this tall; should I be worried it's going to be dangerously too snug?
Cheers
Tim
A guy at work recently won a raffle, the prize for which is an hour's flight with me. Luckily he's looking forward to it but at 6'5", he's a pretty tall fella. My previous PAX have been nowhere near this tall; should I be worried it's going to be dangerously too snug?
Cheers
Tim
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First I would check on the legality of running a raffle on a PPL private flight prize and check you are legal to do the flight and meet insurance requirements.
Second ! Do a thorough weight and balance calculation!
Third check the guy can comfortably sit in the aircraft and secure the belts!
Make sure he can get out quickly in the event of a mishap.
Make sure there is no way he can inhibit the controls.
Pace
Second ! Do a thorough weight and balance calculation!
Third check the guy can comfortably sit in the aircraft and secure the belts!
Make sure he can get out quickly in the event of a mishap.
Make sure there is no way he can inhibit the controls.
Pace
and in connection with that, w&b.
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I'm 6'3 and have lots of head room in my 150. It is reputed that Clyde Cessna was 6'6", and liked to fit into his own aircraft. That's why there seem to be more problems with people being too short for the Cessna's, than too tall...
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PilotDar
I am sure the height itself is not restrictive but not all tall people are slim and a tall fat guy may cause a problem on extricating the aircraft, weight and balance and obstruction of controls which all need to be taken into account.
He also needs to be aware of raffles entering the realms of hire and reward and thus making the flight illegal.
There was a case a few years back of such a charity flight in an R22 with a Mother and child. The flight went wrong and the PPL went to prison.
Pace
I am sure the height itself is not restrictive but not all tall people are slim and a tall fat guy may cause a problem on extricating the aircraft, weight and balance and obstruction of controls which all need to be taken into account.
He also needs to be aware of raffles entering the realms of hire and reward and thus making the flight illegal.
There was a case a few years back of such a charity flight in an R22 with a Mother and child. The flight went wrong and the PPL went to prison.
Pace
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Thanks for the replies everybody.
It seems like the PAX height issue would be OK, but I'm now concerned about the legality of the flight based on what people have said. I am in no way profiting from the flight and so didn't for a second think it would be illegal. I'll look into things in more detail and cancel if necessary.
For what it's worth, it seems crazy that a PPL holder can ask a PAX to contribute an equal share of the direct cost to hire an aircraft and yet the donation of a relatively small amount of money to charity could be classed as illegal.
It seems like the PAX height issue would be OK, but I'm now concerned about the legality of the flight based on what people have said. I am in no way profiting from the flight and so didn't for a second think it would be illegal. I'll look into things in more detail and cancel if necessary.
For what it's worth, it seems crazy that a PPL holder can ask a PAX to contribute an equal share of the direct cost to hire an aircraft and yet the donation of a relatively small amount of money to charity could be classed as illegal.
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From: The frozen north....
You might want to read the following assuming its not changed again since:-
http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadba...2012-07-12.pdf
http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadba...2012-07-12.pdf
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Take 6 people of 6' 5" and sit them down next to each other and you will see that there is little correlation between overall height and sitting height. My son is 6' 6", some 4 inches taller than me, but we both have the same sitting height and I have no trouble in a C150.
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You might want to read the following assuming its not changed again since:-
http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadba...2012-07-12.pdf
http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadba...2012-07-12.pdf
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Yes. I have approved my 150 for flight with either (but not both) door removed. If I'm taking a strapping lad, I'll take my door off, and thus at least have room on the left side!
I have always felt that Cessna missed a market segment by not building a plane halfway between the 150/152 and the 172. A slightly bigger, faster, fancier two place, which could be stretched to three or four as a 150/152 can. But Cessna knew their market....
I have always felt that Cessna missed a market segment by not building a plane halfway between the 150/152 and the 172. A slightly bigger, faster, fancier two place, which could be stretched to three or four as a 150/152 can. But Cessna knew their market....
