ILS Training in the South
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ILS Training in the South
Hi,
I am after some information for a project I am working on and would be grateful for your constructive feedback.
If you live in the South and have the need to practice ILS approaches, I would be interested to know the following:
I know the subject of cost is always an emotive one but the ILS at an airport is one of the most costly systems to implement and maintain. Please do appreciate that more and more airports are now having to charge for the use of their facilities to counter act the cost of falling passenger numbers and the rising cost of APD and other taxes the government has no need to impose. Please do not use my thread as a forum to rant about the cost of flying as my responses may offend!
This thread is all about getting honest feedback so I can ensure future value for money.
I thank you for your feedback
I am after some information for a project I am working on and would be grateful for your constructive feedback.
If you live in the South and have the need to practice ILS approaches, I would be interested to know the following:
- Which airports ILS do you use most frequently? (and why you chose it!)
- How much do you pay per approach?
- Do you pay up front or does your club/FTO have an account?
- Are there any special deals on approaches if you upload fuel/land?
I know the subject of cost is always an emotive one but the ILS at an airport is one of the most costly systems to implement and maintain. Please do appreciate that more and more airports are now having to charge for the use of their facilities to counter act the cost of falling passenger numbers and the rising cost of APD and other taxes the government has no need to impose. Please do not use my thread as a forum to rant about the cost of flying as my responses may offend!
This thread is all about getting honest feedback so I can ensure future value for money.
I thank you for your feedback
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Which airports ILS do you use most frequently? (and why you chose it!)
How much do you pay per approach?
Do you pay up front or does your club/FTO have an account?
Are there any special deals on approaches if you upload fuel/land?
If you're thinking of flying loads of approaches then it might be worth hopping across the channel. I believe that Le Touquet doesn't charge for ILS approaches. It makes a nice outing - fly over, shoot a few approaches, land, lunch and home in time for tea and buns.
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Which airports ILS do you use most frequently? (and why you chose it!)
How much do you pay per approach?
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PS, just checked, it is £17 per approach at Lydd, plus £14 to land. Plus VAT of course. It seems a little bit cheeky to charge for an approach and a landing, but there it is.
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Oxford and the RAF at Benson & Brize have always been quite helpfull but the best value for money if you are doing a rating is LFAC, cheap approaches and you can get the tax back off the fuel on the way out of the UK.
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Yes they do but I don't know how much as I operate for a unit attached to the military and don't have to pay the bills myself.
The very best places were Lyneham and Filton but that bit of information is of no use what so ever!
The very best places were Lyneham and Filton but that bit of information is of no use what so ever!
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If not using the ILS at EGTK (my home field) I tend to nip over the channel to Cherbourg (LFRC); There, you get 4 approaches of your choice for the price of one landing fee - so for a PA32, that's €12 for four approaches. You can then have lunch at the restaurant at the field!
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PS, just checked, it is £17 per approach at Lydd
I do my approaches at Cambridge, mostly because it is closest to where I fly, and you can now book a slot a number of days ahead of your ILS procedures. Previously you had to call before 1600 the day before. I cant recall the prices I am afraid but where I fly from (Panshanger), we dont get a discount, and I am sure landing fees are on top. I havent been offered any special deals, though a few years ago I got myself a cup of coffee and was given some free ants, yes ants!
Besides that rare incident, Cambridge is a very nice and welcoming and friendly airport.
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The other advantage of using French airfields is that you can claim Duty Drawback.
Perhaps one could log the "landing" but avoid Customs by doing a T&G?
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Thanks A and C, Do you know if the military charge??
Edit: Well, maybe not with NDB approaches which are the Devil's Doing.
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Not sure if this applies to ILS fees, but for anybody who will be regularly using Cambridge it's worth mentioning the Cambridge Flying Community - this is a club you can join (for free) and get various benefits like reduced landing fees etc - see CAFC | Home for details...
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Too late for you now but Cambridge has been offering free approaches (VFR and IFR) between 11.00 and 13.00hrs from mid November to today (21 Dec).
This is because they have a backlog of ATCO trainees who need practice.
I've tried it and it works well and really is free.
Reason for mentioning it is to keep a lookout to see if it's resumed in the new year.
And as mentioned above free membership to the Cambridge Flying Community gives 25% off landings during the week and 50% off at weekends.
Cambridge are making a real effort to welcome back GA:
I think they have woken up to the massive GA grass parking area which is now virtually empty.
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This is because they have a backlog of ATCO trainees who need practice.
I've tried it and it works well and really is free.
Reason for mentioning it is to keep a lookout to see if it's resumed in the new year.
And as mentioned above free membership to the Cambridge Flying Community gives 25% off landings during the week and 50% off at weekends.
Cambridge are making a real effort to welcome back GA:
I think they have woken up to the massive GA grass parking area which is now virtually empty.
Cusco
Last edited by Cusco; 21st Dec 2012 at 09:44.