Welcome to the States
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Welcome to the States
The FAA cardboard licenses are running out. So I thought I apply for a renewal based on my foreign ATPL. It was rejected by the FAA stating I wasn't eligible because I don't have a current PIC rating.
It's maybe a peculiarity of my country that they issue ratings as co- pilot, but they could respect past experience as well, which they obviously don't.
Just in case someone is interested, I' ve got 13500 hours total, 3500 in command, 5 different Airbus and Boeing ratings including the 747.
But I'm not allowed to move a C172 in the USA.
Thank you.
It's maybe a peculiarity of my country that they issue ratings as co- pilot, but they could respect past experience as well, which they obviously don't.
Just in case someone is interested, I' ve got 13500 hours total, 3500 in command, 5 different Airbus and Boeing ratings including the 747.
But I'm not allowed to move a C172 in the USA.
Thank you.
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Yes, I have an EASA/JAR license.
The SEP rating used to be included automatically within the ATPL when there were national CAA issued licenses. These days they seem not to be included anymore.
There's always a way to put the blame on the customer.
The SEP rating used to be included automatically within the ATPL when there were national CAA issued licenses. These days they seem not to be included anymore.
There's always a way to put the blame on the customer.
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To my knowledge an ATPL national or JAA has never included an SEP ratings embedded in some other class. You have always required a certificate of validation for each class.
The only embedded privilege was on a UK licence fir the IMCr.
So I would suggest that the FAA are quite correct in refusing you.
Believe it or not button pressing an airbus for a million hours is actually a little different from a 172 and needs refreshing from time to time, sky god or not.......
The only embedded privilege was on a UK licence fir the IMCr.
So I would suggest that the FAA are quite correct in refusing you.
Believe it or not button pressing an airbus for a million hours is actually a little different from a 172 and needs refreshing from time to time, sky god or not.......
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Brix,
If you don't have a SEP Rating in your ATPL, then you can't move a C172 in Europe either. So you need to get that rating again anyhow if you wish to fly SEP in Europe and following that the US will give you the validation too.
The SEP rating used to be included automatically within the ATPL when there were national CAA issued licenses. These days they seem not to be included anymore.
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I did my FAA ATPL in 1983. My chosen weapon was the DC-10. I was allowed an MEP rating but not an SEP rating since I had not done a test on a single-engined airplane.
Seems quite logical to me.
Seems quite logical to me.
Last edited by JW411; 28th November 2012 at 16:32.
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Very sensible - my heavy flying friend tried to kill us when we went flying in a C172. He had not flown SEP for years.
Flared about 100' - I let him know he couldn't do it before taking over.
Be careful!
G
PS He flies heavies...not he is heavy...come to think of it...
Flared about 100' - I let him know he couldn't do it before taking over.
Be careful!
G
PS He flies heavies...not he is heavy...come to think of it...
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From: Los Angeles
Originally Posted by Brix
The FAA cardboard licenses are running out. So I thought I apply for a renewal based on my foreign ATPL.
The FAA paper certificate for airmen expired in March 31 2010 and privileges effective that date.
The date you mention of March 2013 is for non pilot certificates per 14 CFR Part 63 and 65.
