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Old 13th Apr 2002, 16:02
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air to air pictures

Anyone in the south east and interested in air to air shots of their favourite mount?.

We have been asked to build up a library of ground and air to air shots of various types for a magazine and are busy pointing lenses at anything which happens to pass by Norfolk (OK most things tend not to pass by but arrive then depart this fair county but you get the picture).

After the sortie we can get you a CD with high res digital pics to take away and print out at Jessops or use as computer desktop.

Further details and arrangements can be got from [email protected] or calling Seething airfield +44 1508 550453 any Sunday and asking for Ian Davies, Brian Barr, Mike Page, or Paul Holmes.
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Is this service free.?
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All non commercial so as free as it gets!. If discs have to be created and sent on etc. then postage applies and if we have to get to somewhere other than our home base there would be a conversation about fuel costs but we prefer people to come see us.

Seething is a friendly airfield and always happy to see visitors anyway.

Just land, agree the sortie, fly the sortie (with our own formation pilot if required), land, wait for pics to be downloaded and away you go.

Our preference is for unusual types, formations etc. But happy to shoot anything.
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Sounds great - how long will you be doing this for? I'd love to get photos of me and my mate 1013.25 in our favourite mount G-ODAK - a PA28-236 Piper Dakota - and we have been thinking of a trip to Norfolk... only thing is it'll have to wait until after our trip to Barcelona in early May, so maybe late May or early July?
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AA We have been doing this on and off for about a couple of years but have ramped up the exercise recently on request from 'a leading aviation magazine'.

I suspect we will keep doing it until we get bored / lose medicals / etc. so feel free to make arrangements after your Barcelona trip.

Don't have any Piper Dak pics so far so this fits well.
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Just to say that I am the possessor of some fine shots of my aeroplane taken by Mike/Ian at Seething.

A great opportunity, well briefed and unlike most aviation activities pretty inexpensive, just Avgas and a few quiid at Jessops to have them enlarged!

Please can I go again?

Ian - mentioned this to a chap who owns a pretty little RV6 and we will be in telephone contact with you shortly - he was amazed at the quality of my shots.


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We still need some good inverted shots.
Also could do with another Pitts to sit alongside.
Now about an S2 to shoot from, an S2 to lead and 2x S1 wingmen. Any offers?.
Got some great Chipmunk 3 ship stuff couple of weekends ago.
If you are up for more shots then we should aim for a good sunset or 'last hour' shots. This time of year the Purple will really stand out against the rape fields.
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Do you need any Auster Autocrat pictures? I visit Swanton Morley quite often so a flip over to Seething would be a pleasure.

If you're missing a Jackaroo from your collection I know where one (in perfect condition) lives along with 3 Tigers, an Aeronca and the Auster of course. There's also an immaculate RV-6A, a Reims Rocket and a Cessna 180 there.
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Never mind wanting Autocrats, want any more photographers?
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If anyone fancies being the lead S2 in the Pitts scenario, I'll cost share for the front seat.
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Auster Autocrat would be great, so would the others you mention. Got quite a lot of Tiger Moth stuff ( I fly GANJA from Seething) but always looking for more and a Tiger formation would be good.

Wouldn't turn anything down but have a preference for classic and / or slightly unusual.

Would love to see you at Seething. Feel free to call - there most sundays 01508 550453.
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ff,

Sorry to crash your post! Im a PPL holder that likes to dabble in a bit of amateur photography and wouldn't mind doing a bit of air to air myself with a few of my club members. I wonder if you (or anyone) could give me a few tips?? Camera settings? SLR/Digital? Etc?

Dont worry, im not out to steal your limelight - just something i would like to have a go at.

Thanks for your help.

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Wouldn't claim to be expert but as with any photography lighting, framing, and technical expertise all add up to a good photograph. You will find that shutter speeds of around 250th or less are required to prevent the prop 'stopping'. At this speed handholding a long lens is not easy so best to go for as short a lens as you can (this also helps getting focus right). Of course this means the subject aircraft getting quite close so NEEDS a pilot used to formation work. Don't be tempted to get anyone flying close if they haven't done this before - there lies danger!. I practice formation flying every weekend and after 1800 hours flying feel that I am quite safe in a variety of aircraft but the safety factor is mostly knowing when to get out of the way.

We use high qual Nikon Digital (D1X) this means we can take plenty of pictures in a session and throw away the ones which don't make it.

UV filter will help as will polarising filter to deepen the sky.

The best shots are with the sun on the aircraft you are shooting but you can get quite a good effect with the sun behind. We find shoorting in a gentle turn gives a range of lighting conditions.

A typical session will involve aircraft left and right, low and high, forward and back, turns and level.

Background is important. We are not well blessed for variety in Norfolk but aim to do fields, built up areas, and water. Not all shots have to be extreme close up. A wide shot of a low aircraft over a photogenic background can be highly effective. Try and keep as much 'contrast' as possible between aircraft and background (unless you are trying to demonstrate the effectiveness of a camouflaged machine).

Best time of day is early morning or late evening when the quality of the light flatters.

Very general comment I am afraid but I hope it helps.
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formationfoto . I read your last post with interest being an amateur photographer myself (Cannon EOS10Pro). Do you have a web-site with your pictures on it as i would like to see what teqniques you use etc. This is purely from an am photographer point of view.
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Air to Air shots

I have 3 Miles aircraft, a Messenger, Falcon and Magister at Old Warden. A 3-ship would be nice, plus maybe a few more - Gemini, Mercury etc. - all friends - I suspect these would be of interest to a magazine too?

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Formationfoto,

Thanks for the tips, like big Red, I am also quite keen on photography and am interested in what you have to say about air to air photography techniques.

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formationfoto , once I get my annual signed off (hopefully tomorrow, I'll give you a call.

Hairyplane , the Messenger wouldn't be the one Terry built the wing and fuselage for? Cream with green lettering?
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Formationfoto,

Thanks for the tips, very helpful!

Hope your shooting goes well.

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Talking Photo's

I wouldnt mind some air to air shots of my F33A. Planning a trip to Little Snoring very soon. Is this of interest?
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Re: Photo's

Of course interested.

Miles formation and F33A solo both worth getting.


Contact details elsewhere in this post but to save looking
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