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Old 9th Oct 2012, 09:40
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EASA PPL(A) - Who can certify copy documents?

Working my way through SRG1104 to switch to EASA PPL(A) from my nearly expired JAR-FCL licence.

The following copy documents need to be certified as complete and true copies of the original - Certificate of Revalidation and Medical - by a "Head of Approved Training Organisation".

Can this be an instructor / examiner at a Registered Training Facility?

Thanks in advance for any pointers - trying to avoid an indeterminable hold and calling the CAA.

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CFI would be your best bet at a RF.
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A Notary can certify true copies of documents
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It says on the form who can certify them. Head of Training.
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Wouldn't it be better if an examiner as well as HOT could certify them?

The examiner is representing the CAA after all and they also ask to see log books and medical certificates etc

Would make things easier

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You need to understand how everything bolts together in the shiny new EASA world. Everything now has to be done through an ATO. An ATO has a Head of Training so the HoT has been empowered to certify.

Free range Instructors and Examiners are a thing of the past.
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Would make things easier
You really haven't got your head round this EASA thing, have you?
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As a solicitor I (or any of my legal colleagues) can generally certify copy documents. But the CAA is not interested in that.

I emailed the chap who does our syndicate checkouts/revalidations etc. and post his response below in case others have the same question:

"I am head of an RF (Registered Facility).

ATO is a new EASA term so to be pedantic NO I am not an ATO However.......

Registered Facilities have a couple of years to become ATO's during the transition period

If you ask the CAA you will most likely get a lowest common denominator answer of NO "Must be an ATO"

Common sense would mean that head of RF can sign off during transition period so I am happy to sign it and get you to post it and see if new licence appears."
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My JAR-FCL PPL(A) is due to expire in November. I would like to confirm my understanding of the EASA requirements for license renewal.

Am I correct in saying that signed copies (Head of Approved Training Organisation) of 1) Revalidation page from current license and 2) Current medical certificate are all that is required? Alongside a complete SRG 1104 and payment of £79.00

As I am not applying for additional ratings there is no need to submit a log book?

I have studied CAP 804 this afternoon and I am still scratching my head.

Gotta love these Eurocrats (but I won't get into that!)
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You really haven't got your head round this EASA thing, have you?
Has anyone?
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@BA Baracus

That's my understanding for the same process.

Papers are with the CAA, will let you know if they view my approach differently.

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Mine went through yesterday (After 5hrs30mins) , with the copy's certified by "H.O.T. at an "R.T.F"
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I sent in an application for a LAPL, which was required to be accompanied by a copy of the LAPL medical certificate. This requirement is quite ridiculous, because the AME cannot print out the certificate unless all relevant details have been entered on the CAA's system. The CAA is asking for a certified copy of a record on their database.

I got the AME to certify a copy and then convinced the CAA that he was suitably qualified to certify his own certificate.
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