Busy New York ATC Lady keeps her cool talking to GA aircraft
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Busy New York ATC Lady keeps her cool talking to GA aircraft
I don't know how this lady kept her cool....light aircraft and big jets in some of the worlds busiest airspace just don't mix!!
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We do get annoying ones usually the guy who speaks at ultra slow speed and gives out a diatribe of unneeded rubbish all usually on busy frequencies when others are trying to get in a call.
The French are in a league of their own! I swear they discuss the previous nights football match in french
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The French are in a league of their own! I swear they discuss the previous nights football match in french
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A few years back I was transiting the Med south of Nice and the Controller was having a great deal of trouble locating a UK registered aircraft, the guy in the aircraft seemed to be giving all sorts of conflicting position reports.
The controller asked me if I could try to locate the guy and put us both of to a descreet frequency to try to sort this out. The nub of the problem is that the guy did not understand the deference between VOR course and radial.
Having located the guy and passed him onto the correct controller, the French controller I was working says " you have helped me so I shall now help you" and clears me direct to my entry point into the Roma FIR, a clearance that saved a great deal of dog legging.
The controller asked me if I could try to locate the guy and put us both of to a descreet frequency to try to sort this out. The nub of the problem is that the guy did not understand the deference between VOR course and radial.
Having located the guy and passed him onto the correct controller, the French controller I was working says " you have helped me so I shall now help you" and clears me direct to my entry point into the Roma FIR, a clearance that saved a great deal of dog legging.
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Having located the guy and passed him onto the correct controller, the French controller I was working says " you have helped me so I shall now help you" and clears me direct to my entry point into the Roma FIR, a clearance that saved a great deal of dog legging.
I told them that I wanted to stick to my original plan through the Shannon zone, and got the reply "Ok. Well you are cleared to go whichever way you want to go !"
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There was a YouTube clip a few years ago of a conversation ATC had with a GA pilot. Some sort of emergency was happening in the west of this ATCs airspace, so he was told to clear his airspace. A GA pilot somewhere in the east refused, and they had quite a discussion over the radio.
Can't find it however.
Can't find it however.
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I told them that I wanted to stick to my original plan
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Discussed on another forum. To add some icing to the top of the cake, the guy in this recording phoned in after he landed to complain about that controller
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Discussed on another forum. To add some icing to the top of the cake, the guy in this recording phoned in after he landed to complain about that controller
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"Grace Under Fire" is expression that comes to mind regarding the controller.
As for the pilot, this is someone who should be nowhere near the wheel of a plane...and possibly not any other form of transport. If it's not a medical problem, then he is a disgrace to the GA community.
Does the FAA not investigate this sort of incident??
As for the pilot, this is someone who should be nowhere near the wheel of a plane...and possibly not any other form of transport. If it's not a medical problem, then he is a disgrace to the GA community.
Does the FAA not investigate this sort of incident??
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The guy was clearly in his own little world...kind of scary there are people like that who fly. Thankfully it sounded like although he was on her frequency he wasn't about to crash into anyone.
I would however maintain that provided pilots and controllers are competent light aircraft are fine to mix with the big stuff. Particularly in the US controllers are used to and generally very relaxed about light aircraft in busy airspace; I've flown IFR in a lot of the busy airspace around New York and Boston, never been a problem. Once got to fly over the top of JFK at about 6000ft, which at sunset was a pretty impressive sight with all the lights and everything.
I would however maintain that provided pilots and controllers are competent light aircraft are fine to mix with the big stuff. Particularly in the US controllers are used to and generally very relaxed about light aircraft in busy airspace; I've flown IFR in a lot of the busy airspace around New York and Boston, never been a problem. Once got to fly over the top of JFK at about 6000ft, which at sunset was a pretty impressive sight with all the lights and everything.
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On the whole, I think the UK controllers are excellent - helpful, patient and fair. I was once listening to what should have been a straight-forward and routine exchange between an ATC at Farnborough and the pilot of a Cessna something or other. The pilot was given a squawk no less than a dozen times, having failed to correctly read it back on each previous occasion. The controller, who must have been wondering what the hell the pilot was smoking, remained perfectly calm as he patiently repeated the 4 digit number ever more slowly, until the pilot finally got it...