Busy New York ATC Lady keeps her cool talking to GA aircraft
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You're all pretty hard on the guy but I wonder what I would think in a similar position. There I am believing in my instruments and my navigation when someone on the ground tells me it's all wrong. Who am I going to believe?
Some years ago passing a MATZ VFR I was given two consecutive steers pretty much into the nearest bank of cloud. The person on the ground may be doing their best but they're not up there.
Some years ago passing a MATZ VFR I was given two consecutive steers pretty much into the nearest bank of cloud. The person on the ground may be doing their best but they're not up there.
DeltaV - are you trolling?!
'Someone on the ground' happens to be a highly trained, experienced and professional ATC for busy NY air space, supported by very sophisticated radar!! The pilot's attitude and arrogance could cost him his life - and that of others; it certainly has no place in the cockpit. And, if you think his behaviour was acceptable then, with respect, neither do you.
'Someone on the ground' happens to be a highly trained, experienced and professional ATC for busy NY air space, supported by very sophisticated radar!! The pilot's attitude and arrogance could cost him his life - and that of others; it certainly has no place in the cockpit. And, if you think his behaviour was acceptable then, with respect, neither do you.
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You're all pretty hard on the guy but I wonder what I would think in a similar position. There I am believing in my instruments and my navigation when someone on the ground tells me it's all wrong. Who am I going to believe?
Some years ago passing a MATZ VFR I was given two consecutive steers pretty much into the nearest bank of cloud. The person on the ground may be doing their best but they're not up there.
Some years ago passing a MATZ VFR I was given two consecutive steers pretty much into the nearest bank of cloud. The person on the ground may be doing their best but they're not up there.
'you are not going where I think I asked you to go',
'Really, my instruments show I am going to XXX',
'Well my radar plot shows you heading 30 degrees right of that track'
it is blindingly obvious there is an issue of some sort in the airplane (like wrong waypoint entered, a miss set DI, generalised incompetence, etc.) and the pilot is just being thick on continuing to deny the issue.
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It was the 'hey don't bother me no more' comment that really took the biscuit...I mean the guy is clearly flying IFR in controlled airspace (or at least attempting to), you can't just tell ATC to leave you alone. 
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Amazing ! - what was this guy on ? My votes with the controller for keeping her cool, very professional.
That guy needed to check his situational awareness - many pilots have been lost while saying 'my instruments are just fine' !
That guy needed to check his situational awareness - many pilots have been lost while saying 'my instruments are just fine' !
