options for flying to Edinburgh?
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You guys must be pretty well off to be willing to pay that amount.
Or you've chosen instead not to self-fly into Edinburgh, which in turn is very bad for GA as the plane sits there and doesn't move so everyone's hourly costs go up.
I've been trying to find answers to sky high airport charges. Why is nobody doing anything about them?
Or you've chosen instead not to self-fly into Edinburgh, which in turn is very bad for GA as the plane sits there and doesn't move so everyone's hourly costs go up.
I've been trying to find answers to sky high airport charges. Why is nobody doing anything about them?
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From: England
Personally I feel those charge are perfectly reasonable. Apart from the handling fee. Lets face it no us want it. They certainly offer nothing of any value.
I really can't see what the hang up is with using the local flying school. They offer everything I need.
East midlands have just banned GA from using the flying school. The price has gone up 80 quid. The service (I suspect not been since) is now utterly relevant and I don't think they even care.
This banning of using the local flying school and handling due security reasons is a disease that I really don't think benefits anyone.
I really can't see what the hang up is with using the local flying school. They offer everything I need.
East midlands have just banned GA from using the flying school. The price has gone up 80 quid. The service (I suspect not been since) is now utterly relevant and I don't think they even care.
This banning of using the local flying school and handling due security reasons is a disease that I really don't think benefits anyone.
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From: GLASGOW
As NorthSouth highlights, there is absolutely no problem with ATC at either Edinburgh, or Glasgow. Both units are extremely helpful and tolerent of GA. In fact Edinburgh go out of their way to assist, with information and visits.
No the issue is the perceived wealth and revenue generation from Corporate traffic, and BAA.
Leave one company in charge, and fees will be set at what they want, not what would suit all participants.
No the issue is the perceived wealth and revenue generation from Corporate traffic, and BAA.
Leave one company in charge, and fees will be set at what they want, not what would suit all participants.
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Deary me that is absolutely shocking. £95 "Handling". What does "handling" entail exactly? Red carpets, limousine, champagne, caviar, escort ladies? £2.70/lt for 100LL? What's in it, Kryptonite? Laced with DiLithium Crystals? Is it Super100LL? £45 surcharge for security??? Do they not make enough from the "handling"?
No wonder the feckin place is empty!!!!!!!!
No wonder the feckin place is empty!!!!!!!!
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From: GLASGOW
I remember a few years back when I went in to Edi in the Chippy. They met me at Signature with the Corporate van. Ok says I, I'll walk. It was only a couple of hundred yards. No sir jump in, we will take you, Elfin safety and all that. Charged me 129 quid. Learnt from that.
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From: Sheffield
Flew into East Fortune a few years ago. It may have all changed butThe microlight strip was very short, but on the other side of the road there was a racetrack which had a good long run.
We fuelled up, then hopped one up across the road to the racetrack ( we had asked permission) and then loaded passengers and then took off from the race track. Went round the first chicane at about 20 knots before giving it full throttle!.
The only time Ive ever flown around a race track!
We fuelled up, then hopped one up across the road to the racetrack ( we had asked permission) and then loaded passengers and then took off from the race track. Went round the first chicane at about 20 knots before giving it full throttle!.
The only time Ive ever flown around a race track!
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From: France
It's clear none of you have the remotest grasp of the economics which keep an airport running...
Suffice to say, without public subsidy, having GA paying peanuts at a big airport makes sense only to the GA pilot and his passengers. The situation in France is much better; I had a meeting recently at a regional airport with a nearly-2,000 m runway, ILS, NDB, DME, radar, etc. I flew in in a 5.7 tonne jet and paid less than €60 for landing and parking. Ate an excellent lunch in the restaurant in the terminal, drank a perfect coffee, fuelled at a reasonable price, and back home again...
The French government is behind aviation and therefore GA; the British one doesn't care a jot.
You voted for them!
Suffice to say, without public subsidy, having GA paying peanuts at a big airport makes sense only to the GA pilot and his passengers. The situation in France is much better; I had a meeting recently at a regional airport with a nearly-2,000 m runway, ILS, NDB, DME, radar, etc. I flew in in a 5.7 tonne jet and paid less than €60 for landing and parking. Ate an excellent lunch in the restaurant in the terminal, drank a perfect coffee, fuelled at a reasonable price, and back home again...
The French government is behind aviation and therefore GA; the British one doesn't care a jot.
You voted for them!
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From: GLASGOW
Totally agree. I did not vote for them, apparently 20% did.
I flew into Carcassonne, left the plane there for 3 weeks, flew in and out several times, squared up on departure and paid 39 euro for parking, 4 x 5 euro for landings, 59 euro. I thought they had made a gross error. No sir, was the reply, thank you for your custom.
Breath of fresh air. Watchdog on the tv at the moment, and apparently UK retailers are charging 40% more for items than the european counterparts. Some female blaming it on Business rates/employing people????, and the cost of doing business in the UK.
Nuff said.
I flew into Carcassonne, left the plane there for 3 weeks, flew in and out several times, squared up on departure and paid 39 euro for parking, 4 x 5 euro for landings, 59 euro. I thought they had made a gross error. No sir, was the reply, thank you for your custom.
Breath of fresh air. Watchdog on the tv at the moment, and apparently UK retailers are charging 40% more for items than the european counterparts. Some female blaming it on Business rates/employing people????, and the cost of doing business in the UK.
Nuff said.
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It's clear none of you have the remotest grasp of the economics which keep an airport running...
Suffice to say, without public subsidy, having GA paying peanuts at a big airport makes sense only to the GA pilot and his passengers. The situation in France is much better; I had a meeting recently at a regional airport with a nearly-2,000 m runway, ILS, NDB, DME, radar, etc. I flew in in a 5.7 tonne jet and paid less than €60 for landing and parking. Ate an excellent lunch in the restaurant in the terminal, drank a perfect coffee, fuelled at a reasonable price, and back home again...
The French government is behind aviation and therefore GA; the British one doesn't care a jot.
You voted for them!
Suffice to say, without public subsidy, having GA paying peanuts at a big airport makes sense only to the GA pilot and his passengers. The situation in France is much better; I had a meeting recently at a regional airport with a nearly-2,000 m runway, ILS, NDB, DME, radar, etc. I flew in in a 5.7 tonne jet and paid less than €60 for landing and parking. Ate an excellent lunch in the restaurant in the terminal, drank a perfect coffee, fuelled at a reasonable price, and back home again...
The French government is behind aviation and therefore GA; the British one doesn't care a jot.
You voted for them!
What I have always questioned is this "mandatory handling" thing for GA at certain airfields. Bizjets/TPs requiring a huffer cart, marshaller, VIP transport, assist with baggage etc. is all well and fine, but if someone's popping in with a 152 that can self-park in a quiet corner not bothering anyone does not require "handling". Fair enough if there's say an extra tenner for a security officer to escort between the aircraft and the GA terminal/reception/whatever's there at the airfield, that's OK, but "mandatory handling" and the associated eye-popping price attached just rips the pish as far as cynical Smithy is concerned.
Oh and I did not vote for our current Government either but that's another discussion entirely...
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From: Sometimes north, sometimes south
flh:
Well, as you're finding out, very few of us did, especially north of the border, but then we never did, and we've always had a view of public infrastructure similar to that of the French govt, unlike the slash and burn, race-to-the bottom, "public bad, private good" ideology that's been running amok in London for the last 30 years, unchecked by anything remotely resembling an opposition except perhaps on the streets from time to time.
Ahhh, that feels better!
NS
The French government is behind aviation and therefore GA; the British one doesn't care a jot.
You voted for them!
You voted for them!
Ahhh, that feels better!
NS
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From: UK
At that rate you would be better going to Prestwick and hire a car!! - just over 1 hour drive to Edi
costs - Landing + Nav £20
Handling - £20
Parking - £13.10 per day but 1st 24hours is FREE
And Avgas is around £1.90
Ocean Sky have only commercial AVGAS and will take good care of you...
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costs - Landing + Nav £20
Handling - £20
Parking - £13.10 per day but 1st 24hours is FREE
And Avgas is around £1.90
Ocean Sky have only commercial AVGAS and will take good care of you...
[email protected]
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From: Jockistan
DO. He's coming from South Yorkshire to Edinburgh! Its a 1.5 hour drive from Prestwick to Edinburgh. He'd be as well jumping on a train in Doncaster.
However Im sure he will get there just fine
However Im sure he will get there just fine
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From: 18nm NE grice 28ft up
140KIAS
Yes I know. I was replying to the previous two posts but I could not find a sarcastic smilie.
All the sensible suggestions were ages ago.
I believe the army are losing interest in Kirknewton as a base.
You could be the man to develop it if there is any dosh left after fixing your bitch (aircraft)
D.O.
Yes I know. I was replying to the previous two posts but I could not find a sarcastic smilie.
All the sensible suggestions were ages ago.
I believe the army are losing interest in Kirknewton as a base.
You could be the man to develop it if there is any dosh left after fixing your bitch (aircraft)
D.O.
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From: USA
It's clear none of you have the remotest grasp of the economics which keep an airport running...
Suffice to say, without public subsidy, having GA paying peanuts at a big airport makes sense only to the GA pilot and his passengers
Suffice to say, without public subsidy, having GA paying peanuts at a big airport makes sense only to the GA pilot and his passengers
Needless to say, I do not believe JFK Intl. or their FBOs bills our government $1,000+ (in the same way as Stansted, a considerably smaller airport, charges around 500 pounds) every time I land and park my Cessna overnight there.
It just wouldn't be allowed.
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From: In orbit
Fly into Glenrothes which is a cute little tarmac airfield.
Alternative which gives better scenery if you're flying in VFR is Perth Airport at Scone. If I were you, I'd take a detour north on the way home and experience some of Perthshire. It's really nice country.
I wouldn't go to EDI unless you're landing in a Citation and the fees will be about the same as the in-flight wine.
Swerve
Alternative which gives better scenery if you're flying in VFR is Perth Airport at Scone. If I were you, I'd take a detour north on the way home and experience some of Perthshire. It's really nice country.
I wouldn't go to EDI unless you're landing in a Citation and the fees will be about the same as the in-flight wine.
Swerve