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Old 21st Jan 2012, 11:38
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Thanks WWW, I didn't recall the name but wanted to be sure. What a waste.

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Old 21st Jan 2012, 14:55
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I will post whatever details are appropriate regarding Bobs funeral as and when.

I have a hunch that it might be a private affair because potentially it could be so large that it would risk failing to serve its primary purpose.


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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 10:40
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Condolences to both familes

I didn't know Bob from Welshpool, but does anyone know if it is the same Steve Carr DFC ex Chinook pilot...? He was my neightbour on the patch for a while. RIP
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 06:51
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No, this Steve was purely fixed wing as far as I know.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 20:54
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There seems to have been two ex-RAF Steve Carrs and this was the major reason that early name checks were removed despite the name being correct.

The following link includes a photo to eradicate any doubt:

Bob Jones and Steve Carr formally identified as victims of Welshpool plane crash « Shropshire Star


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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 21:33
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I've just heard, Bob's funeral is 13:30 Saturday 11th at St Mary's Church in Welshpool.
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Old 4th Feb 2012, 18:01
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A slight correction to the above. It is in fact a Thanksgiving Service. The Funeral is a private affair at another time.

Bob was an amazingly popular man who was very widely known. As such there are simply too many people who wish to attend his funeral. Unless invited otherwise then please consider the Thanksgiving Service for you. I will be there.

For any queries speak to Eddie Francis on 01938 580364 (undertaker). I believe the Wales Air Ambulance is one of the nominated charities.


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Old 11th Feb 2012, 17:56
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I'm no lover of poetry as a rule. However when Bobs widow stood at the Lectern in St Mary's and, so bravely and movingly, read this out it was incredible;


Impressions of a Pilot
Gary Claude Stoker


Flight is freedom in its purest form,
To dance with the clouds which follow a storm;
To roll and glide, to wheel and spin,
To feel the joy that swells within.

To leave the earth with its troubles and fly,
And know the warmth of a clear spring sky;
Then back to earth at the end of the day,
Released from the tensions which melted away.

Should my end come while I am in flight,
Whether brightest day or darkest night;
Spare me no pity and shrug off the pain,
Secure in the knowledge that I'd do it again.

For each of us is created to die,
And within me I know,
I was born to fly.


Never come across that one before. So tragically apt.


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Old 11th Feb 2012, 19:54
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Lovely. And as you say, apt. More so than the somewhat hackneyed (but still excellent) 'High Flight'.
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Old 15th Feb 2012, 09:28
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Steve Carr

Utterly miserable at this news of my former colleague.
What a loss, I have no more words.
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TV Tribute

Very fitting that this should appear on the TV this week. Bob as I will like to remember him.

Jules "Thanks Bob for a very nice Flight", Bob "wait till we are down". "Thanks again Bob", "OK my pleasure."

BBC iPlayer - Britain's Heritage Heroes: Episode 8

Skip through to 24:41 and stay to after the final credits.
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Old 24th Feb 2012, 20:30
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Steve Carr - a privilege to have known him and flown with him as his First Officer on the B737 and later A319 before I moved on to pastures new and Steve into retirement. Liked, respected and very much missed by all his ex-colleagues and friends in Liverpool.

Rest in peace.
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I was in Welshpool today and noticed fliers for the Bob Jones memorial air show this weekend for those who may be interested.

Welshpool Air Show
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Is there anymore known yet about the cause of this very sad and tragic accident?

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Have been trawling AAIB, and cant find any reference to it as yet
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 15:54
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Report published today; CFIT. Unbelievable with over 25,000 hours in the front seats and so much experience of that local area, just goes to show, never immune to it. Sad times, please learn from it.

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It's the conclusion I had feared. Bit of cloud on long mountain. Deceptively dangerous. I've made that turn a thousand times. Bob a hundred thousand times. Its nothing. Then it bites your arse. 21ft higher and it wouldn't have happened.

Unbelievable.



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Old 9th Aug 2012, 20:39
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Very sad result in an area I know well too and to two pilots I had a lot of admiration and respect for.
In a way those sort of conditions are the worst not really in IMC not really fully visual.
Both pilots knew the area well as well as the patches of cloud which would accumulate on and around those hills especially long mountain.
It is a stark reminder to us all that even the best are not immune from the slightest tiniest error yet such a tiny error having such devastating results.

We as pilots do our best and when these things happen We like to feel that its to a pilot/s who are an accident waiting to happen or a wreck of an aircraft waiting to fall apart!

When they are both such brilliant pilots in a good aircraft it makes us aware of our own vulnerability.

I have lost 7 good friends now to aviation Bob and Steve taking that from 5 to 7! Lost for words!

Bob having co piloted me on the Citation on a couple of occasions I was stuck for a licensed pilot and on various multi engine twins as well as covering me on flights I could not do! a safe pair of hands! A great guy and superb pilot!

Steve having initially carried out my twin rating on a Baron 55 many moons ago a great instructor who became a much respected Easy Jet Captain.
Sadly I met him after not having seen him for 15 years just before this tragic accident. The same very likable person excited by his new direction back to his beginnings.

Both are sadly missed and will never be forgotten thanks for the ride guys and all you both taught me !!!

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Old 26th Oct 2012, 08:57
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Accidental verdict in Bob Jones and Steve Carr inquest « Shropshire Star


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