L.A.P.L Information?

[S-Works]

Will the LAPL be valid outside the UK or is Bose X correct and they can't?

My understanding of the LAPL is it will be European, which us what I said. It will be a sub ICAO licence and not useable outside Europe.

[Miroku]

Quite right, I misread your mail.

[David Roberts]

Billie Bob,

I was using 'shorthand' in that publication in the OJ is a pre-requisite for the law to be effective from 8 April 2012, as you say. I know about the options to defer implementation and the UK CAA's decision to start transitions from 1 July 2012 for systems and admin reasons.

[vjmehra]

Apologies if this has already been asked, but I have tried (and failed) to find an answer...

I have only a few flight hours logged and am considering my options at the moment, whilst I like the idea of something more exciting further down the line, short term I have no great need to fly anything other than a 2 seater trainer, therefore I am wondering the following...

Currently there is no upgrade path as such for UK NPPL (A) holders, however with the new EASA licensing, if I hold a LAPL licence, can I add additional ratings to this, or is there any upgrade path as such, without beginning again from scratch, should I wish to gain extra prvilleges/types in the future?

As an example, my understanding is that I could fly a C172 VFR in the UK on an NPPL (A), however, what if I want to fly a Cirrus SR22 in IMC further down the road, does the LAPL allow for this with additional training?

[B4aeros]

You will have to turn the LAPL(A) into a PPL(A) before you can add an IR. Page 25, FCL 210.A (b)

[vjmehra]

Ah that's great news, so presumably if I understand things correctly I can learn in something that in the US may be defined as an LSA (I'm UK based) and then hopefully gain a LAPL, allowing me to fly day VFR on LSA type aircraft (or any SEP if type rated?). Presumably though you can't add a night rating without first doing the extra required for a ppl?

[C42]

Strange issue for me,

I have a JAA PPL and an NPPL (SSEA) and (M)

I keep them current (Inc. the "M")

I would like to keep them, so can I apply for a LAPL and still have my JAA PPL and also keep my "M" rating also ( there are reasons for me wanting to keep this!)

Dave

[BEagle]

Under EASA, you will not be permitted to hold more than 1 licence for the same 'category' of aircraft.

So you will not be permitted to hold both a JAR-FCL PPL(A), which will be 'deemed' to be an EASA part-FCL PPL(A) after Apr 2012, as well as a LAPL(A).

For those considering training for an EASA licence outside the EU, the oversight of ATOs approved to conduct LAPL(A) training will no longer be the responsibility of any NAA. Instead it will become an EASA responsibility, which is likely to incur additional costs.

[ifitaintboeing]

Originally Posted by billiebob

The significance of the 2015 date is that it marks the end of the derogation period by when a pilot must hold an EASA licence.

Not strictly true. If you only intend or wish to fly non-EASA aircraft then you will be able to continue with your old lifetime PPL [which downgrades to NPPL privileges] or your NPPL.

[B4aeros]

you can't add a night rating without first doing the extra required for a ppl?

FCL 810 describes the requirements for adding a night rating to an LAPL & PPL.

[Fake Sealion]

My understanding is that the Nppl (microlight) license will remain a national one outside of EASA .

Is this correct?