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Old 10th Sep 2011, 18:35
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YGC are running a course from 24th to 28th Oct

If you can bear the thought of travelling to Yorkshire, then you could book in for a course at Sutton Bank.

Paul Conran (who I believe finished 16th at the recent world championships) will be the guest instructor.
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 22:05
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I was taught some aerobatics at Dunstable back in the 80's - loops, some sustained inverted, chandelles and low beat ups.
Erm... Apart from exceptions like Andy Gough at Bicester, I don't think many people did much sustained inverted flight then and I certainly don't remember anyone at LGC who was capable of doing so then. Beatups (ooops, erm low level passes), barrel rolls, loops, hammerheads etc. Definitely yes! and I would teach people how to do them. And around this time Ray was just just getting into aeros and I believe he became 'qualified' in the early 90's. I remember Ray because he was one of my occasional weekend pupils some years before.

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Old 14th Sep 2011, 22:43
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ls Ray still active ? l wouldn`t know since being in charge of half a dozen club machines and the private owners at an away couple of weeks l haven`t actually seen him. Some years ago now.

What is the point of your post Sir ? a weeing contest ?

Ray is a good guy. You should treat him with more respect.
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What is the point of your post Sir ? a weeing contest ?

Ray is a good guy. You should treat him with more respect.
Who are you asking the question of and who was disrespectful to Ray? Has a post been deleted?

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Old 18th Sep 2011, 03:43
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Well, apart from blowing your own trumpet you don`t seem to have added a lot to the thread.





ps. on a personal note, with gold + 3 diamonds, my feeling has been that

bemused, lacking somewhere, x-country pilots turn to taking club

machines to the limits in aero`s as an outlet for their need to achieve,

which l have always found questionable.

ln privately owned kit l`m not even interested.

l wish you well.

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Old 18th Sep 2011, 07:32
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Good point. If you read the Reno thread, that aircraft was extensively modified and flown to the max at high speed, whereupon the trim tab detached....

Aeros badly flown can cause this old woman to black out, aeros badly flown can cause gliders to loose bits as well; so lets be very very careful to get the right training in the right machines from the right people.
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 09:34
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Mary, I accept and agree with the message that you are trying to convey, but suspect that the Mustang in question was probably subjected to a regime of exceedingly stringent maintenance oversight. It was also flown by a pilot with considerable and appropriate experience on type.

Also, I was not aware that the Mustang accident report has been published.
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 07:52
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Hello, Chubby Chopper, and welcome to the forum.

I'm sure you have read all of the useful thread on the Reno disaster.

But if pilots wait for the official accident report to be published, we usually wait more than a year! and then it can be less than transparent, as I can testify from my own experience. The exchange of information on this forum is often useful, and much more immediate in effect once you have sifted the wheat from the chaff. Which the mods do a fairly decent job in doing from day to day. When an official report is published, the chaff remains in print forever, unchallenged. I could give a couple of examples; we observed a 180 pilot stuff his aircraft into the hedge at our field, returning in terrible weather when we had ceased flying because of poor viz. He chose to land where his wife was waiting with the car, rather than proceed to a better alternate.

Read the accident report? he wrote most of it!
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 09:45
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Mary, thank you for the warm welcome.
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Old 25th Sep 2011, 22:25
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Mary, you have some balls.
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Old 26th Sep 2011, 07:29
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Negative. Never did.
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Old 16th Oct 2011, 02:53
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l didn`t say that they were your own.
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Ref JW411's posting on 6th Sept regarding glider aerobatics and Doug Bridson. We Boy entrants at St Athan thought that he was a real hero. I remember trying to concentrate on parade ground drill practice while he was overhead flying a Chipmunk and hovering it into wind.
He gave me my first glider flight at St Athan in 1956, my next was in 1968 after I learnt that defective colour vision was not a barrier to flying. I have clocked up around 7500 launches and 4500 hours gliding plus a few hundred hours power
since, I am still gliding, still enjoying it and still learning.
Does anyone else have memories of Doug and what happened to him? I am sure that there could be enough to write an entertaining book

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