Light aircraft down near Sibson
I do wonder, however, why both the press and the BBC put a place for replies at the end of news items, they are always littered with rubbish like this.
Even a fairly heavy-weight site like www.economist.com enables comments to articles, and among high-brow and erudite posts is a fair sprinkling of rather immoderate ones.
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When the air ambulance, at 4pm landed and refueled at Connington, then took off and headed east, I had a feeling of dread. Had he deposited a casualty at Adenbrooks he would have refueled at Cambridge.
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I too have requested that the Cambridge News modders get the pathetic and hurtful comment removed via my T w i t t e r stream. 2am and it's still there. See you at Sywell in the morning.
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Local paper says Belgian registered.
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Pilot killed as plane hits electricity cable near Peterborough
The wreckage of the plane which crashed just short of Sibson Airfield, near Wansford on Friday. Picture: David Lowndes/Peterborough ET
By Adam Uren
Published on Saturday 3 September 2011 09:00
Saturday, 9am: A pilot was killed after the light aircraft he was flying crashed after clipping a power line near Peterborough yesterday (2 September).
The red and white aircraft clipped a cable between two electricity pylons over the A1 before crashing to the ground just short of Sibson Airfield as it came into land at around 2.15pm on Friday.
Cambridgeshire police have confirmed that the pilot, who was flying alone, was killed in the crash but could not reveal more information as he has not yet been formally identified.
The plane was registered to an airport in Belgium.
There were chaotic scenes on the roads after the A1 was closed as a precaution between the A47 at Wansford and the A605 at Haddon, while National Grid engineers repaired the damage cable.
The stretch of road is expected to remain closed until midday today.
The plane landed just 200 yards from the Sibson Inn Hotel on the A1 with business manager Mark Prime informed of the crash by a guest.
He said: “We were alerted by a diner who saw the crash. The hotel manager called the airfield who had already callhttp://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/pilot_killed_as_plane_hits_electricity_cable_near_peterborou gh_1_3024349
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Pilot killed as plane hits electricity cable near Peterborough
The wreckage of the plane which crashed just short of Sibson Airfield, near Wansford on Friday. Picture: David Lowndes/Peterborough ETBy Adam Uren
Published on Saturday 3 September 2011 09:00
Saturday, 9am: A pilot was killed after the light aircraft he was flying crashed after clipping a power line near Peterborough yesterday (2 September).
The red and white aircraft clipped a cable between two electricity pylons over the A1 before crashing to the ground just short of Sibson Airfield as it came into land at around 2.15pm on Friday.
Cambridgeshire police have confirmed that the pilot, who was flying alone, was killed in the crash but could not reveal more information as he has not yet been formally identified.
The plane was registered to an airport in Belgium.
There were chaotic scenes on the roads after the A1 was closed as a precaution between the A47 at Wansford and the A605 at Haddon, while National Grid engineers repaired the damage cable.
The stretch of road is expected to remain closed until midday today.
The plane landed just 200 yards from the Sibson Inn Hotel on the A1 with business manager Mark Prime informed of the crash by a guest.
He said: “We were alerted by a diner who saw the crash. The hotel manager called the airfield who had already callhttp://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/pilot_killed_as_plane_hits_electricity_cable_near_peterborou gh_1_3024349
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Very sad news. I flew from Sibson for a few years without incident. The obstacles at either end of 06/24 need consideration as does the shorter 15/33 but it is possible to get in and out of both safely using the right technique. The twins used for parachute drops prove that. To correct a small point about the Air Ambulance heading East being a bad sign is not true. It could have been inbound to Peterborough City Hospital but it's immaterial. Sibson is a great airfield and club with good instructors. As I said a sad loss for the pilot's family. RIP.
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The plane was registered to an airport in Belgium.
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I've never been to Sibson but as I understand it there are pylons and high tension wires on the approach. Are these marked in anyway? I've seen large round orange spheres spread along the top cable as an alert in other parts of the world.
On the continent I've also seen pylons painted in alternate red and white bands. Yes hindsight I know, but would these help prevent a similar incident in the future?
Lastly, the picture reminds me of a similar shot of a fatal crash involving a Jodel a while ago. Is it worth exploring a method of protection as per convertibles?
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On the continent I've also seen pylons painted in alternate red and white bands. Yes hindsight I know, but would these help prevent a similar incident in the future?
Lastly, the picture reminds me of a similar shot of a fatal crash involving a Jodel a while ago. Is it worth exploring a method of protection as per convertibles?
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There were no markers on the pylons or wires as far as I know. There certainly weren't when I was there.
The authorities were once asked if they would put orange markers on the earth wire that spans from pylon tip to pylon tip but there answer was that as no one had hit the wire, there wasn't a need.
Before the runway was realigned, one pylon was pretty much in line with the runway centre line.
As I said before, the pylons were not much of a problem in reality - just don't drag it in on a low final approach.
15/33 is 551m IIRC with clear approaches/climb outs so no problem at all. 07 (06) was good fun with the trees on the appoach but again they were more pyscological than a real problem.
Sibbo has always been quite a busy place, movement-wise and this sad occurrence is, as I said, the first of its sort which proves it isn't a dangerous or difficult place to operate from. We operated Cessnas and a Seneca there and the parachute centre has had some relatively big stuff based there including the Skyvan and Let 410.
The authorities were once asked if they would put orange markers on the earth wire that spans from pylon tip to pylon tip but there answer was that as no one had hit the wire, there wasn't a need.
Before the runway was realigned, one pylon was pretty much in line with the runway centre line.
As I said before, the pylons were not much of a problem in reality - just don't drag it in on a low final approach.
15/33 is 551m IIRC with clear approaches/climb outs so no problem at all. 07 (06) was good fun with the trees on the appoach but again they were more pyscological than a real problem.
Sibbo has always been quite a busy place, movement-wise and this sad occurrence is, as I said, the first of its sort which proves it isn't a dangerous or difficult place to operate from. We operated Cessnas and a Seneca there and the parachute centre has had some relatively big stuff based there including the Skyvan and Let 410.
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There were no markings on the wires, and yes it was the earth wire he hit. It would be a good idea to have markings on the wires, you can never be too cautious with things like that, however everyone flying in to Sibson should be aware of their presence as they will either be based there, or have obtained PPR with a warning about the various obstacles. He had phoned in prior to leaving to let them know he may be arriving and had been duly warned about the pylons, so it was really just a gross error of judgement and he paid the ultimate price...
Sibson is back up and running anyway, the mood is obviously a bit sombre but everyone is getting on with things. I've yet to land on anything other than 24 so have some interesting challenges to come, but I think the pylons are definitely the highest risk. It gets very busy there over the weekend and yes they operate a couple of Cessna 'caravans' amongst other things which are large, turbine powered single props.
Sibson is back up and running anyway, the mood is obviously a bit sombre but everyone is getting on with things. I've yet to land on anything other than 24 so have some interesting challenges to come, but I think the pylons are definitely the highest risk. It gets very busy there over the weekend and yes they operate a couple of Cessna 'caravans' amongst other things which are large, turbine powered single props.
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Pilot's name now in the public domain..
Suppose one shouldn't be surprised in this new European world.. D-reg, Belgium, Netherlands etc... pilot named as Roger Greenaway (52) from Stratford upon Avon and flight was reportedly from Wellesbourne. RIP Roger.
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His name was Clive Richard Greenaway,he was a experienced pilot who had purchased the aircraft from belguim and he was a very close friend and will be missed by many, very sad ! RIP Clive
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