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Old 11th Jul 2011, 14:23
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Joys Of Air Law.

Now, don't get me wrong, of course i love to learn the dimensions of the registration lettering of a lighter than air aircraft, but it seems to become a little tedious after a while, but thats a whole other subject.

I was just calling on people that have completed the exam( and hopefully passed ) and wondered about the material they used. I'm currently using the trevor thom air law book and whilst i found it to be fairly comprehensive and explanatory just taking a quick browse through this forum seems to reveal alot of favour for the PPL confuser.

I just wanted to see people's thoughts on whether you found it a must have or perhaps just a luxury. With an aspiration of entering the commercial world i want to learn and understand the material rather than memorising the answers to questions!

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I think the best way is to learn from Trevor Thom and then test yourself with the confuser.
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I only used Trevor Thom's book and the Airquiz site. http://www.airquiz.com/
It was a boring old slog.
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Any decent PPL textbook (eg TT) will give you a certain amount of relevant background knowledge. Couple that together with actual flying experience and instruction and you should have everything you need in practice to know the rules and stay legal.

As for the exam, I'd suggest the PPL Confuser and probably not much else.
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Maybe a bit tedious but here's my thread about my theory experience.

I used Jeremy Pratt's books and thought they were excellent....

http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...xperience.html
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Jeremy Pratt

I found the Jeremy Pratt books far more readable than the Trevor Thirn series. I guess your instructor will have his prefered and it's best to go with him. It's partly what puts me off the IMCr is wading through the TT imc book.
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Joys Of Air Law.
Now, don't get me wrong, of course i love to learn the dimensions of the registration lettering of a lighter than air aircraft, but it seems to become a little tedious after a while, but thats a whole other subject.
Perhaps a little off topic but, curious thing, my a/c was recently checked for Permit renewal & it was pointed out to me that the registration lettering was too small. I didn't want to know that either. Perhaps there is a reason for all that tedium
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I have always hated air law, and had little capacity for it. If you look at my CPL exam results: a line of high 80s and low 90s, then 76% for air law. I don't have record of my PPL(M) and PPL(SEP) results, but my memory suggests that they were also both scraped minimum passes.

For me the textbook was largely irrelevant - the best learning and revision tool was a huge pad of fine-lined A4 paper and a box of coloured biros. Then made my own notes longhand, and again, and again, and again...

.... it's the only way I was ever able to memorise such a tedious mass of detail, for which I have little affinity.

In reality I know this material is important, but my ability to recall it isn't - I need to know that there are rules about these subjects, and where to look them up. For about 95% of it anyhow, the other 5% is usually interesting enough I actually remember it.

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To date

Anybody ever been shot at with a green flare gun ? Anybody ever been nuts enough to load a flare gun and shoot back out of the little window in a PA28

In my, limited, view the nuttiest thing about the PPL course is that they teach you which coloured flares to shoot, when receiving flare signals yourself, but not how to use a GPS!!!!

Yes, I know GPS is a controversial subject but come on, let's at least move out of the 50s.

Aviate, Navigate, Communicate, Fire flare guns ? Sounds like something from mean streets of Compton, South Central LA!
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Perhaps a little off topic but, curious thing, my a/c was recently checked for Permit renewal & it was pointed out to me that the registration lettering was too small. I didn't want to know that either. Perhaps there is a reason for all that tedium
Isn't the minimum size for underwing markings (50cm) designed to be readable to anyone with 20/20 vision at 150m, for obvious reasons?
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The PPL confuser is out of date for quite a few subjects. The PPL perfecter seems to be the way to go now.
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Isn't the minimum size for underwing markings (50cm) designed to be readable to anyone with 20/20 vision at 150m, for obvious reasons?
Ah, that's the reason. If someone with 20/20 vision can read your markings, you broke the 500 feet rule. If they can't, you're high enough.

It all makes sense now...
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However, the mere fact that an observer (complainant) has your reg. should not be evidence in itself of a breach of rule 5. Some scurrilous anti-aviation types have been known to use binoculars, or just get to know the reg's of the aircraft at their local airfield by visiting or off the internet.
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I am using the Jeremy Pratt series and the Confuser. So far I have completed HPL (95%), Air Law(85%), Navigation (73%F - 80%) and Meteorology (85%), and only encountered any problems with the Navigation when I got a bit lazy with the Confuser whilst studying.

As a result I'd obviously recommend the above, and clearly the Confuser isn't much out of date. A word of caution with the Confuser: some of the questions have incorrect explanations and answers. Some are more obvious than others but if you study the stuff enough then the errors should be obvious and not send you off on too much of a tangent.

Good Luck!
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Another vote for Jeremy Pratt over Trevor Thom; but I survived his IMC book and passed, so don't let that put you off!

(For the latter I would also recommend VOR, ADF and RMI - the book which eventually got me to understand NDB tracking)

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