Is it possible to do a PPL exam a day?
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Is it possible to do a PPL exam a day?
Basically what the title says, i'm short on time at the moment and i need to get the exams done asap, anyone think its possible to get them done one a day or one every 2 days? i've got the dvd's and the confuser 
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It is a bit like saying how long is a piece of string!
It will all depend on things like how much you already know, how much time you can dedicate each day, how fast a learner you are, how good you are at studying, how good you are at reading multiple choice questions.... and a lot more.
Some exams are pretty obvious and common sense after doing the learning, some need a lot more practical learning such as Nav and RT. If you are also flying at the same time you are gaining this practical knowledge as well but there is a difference between the doing and the passing of the exam.
I suggest that you allow enough time to learn each subject properly, so you are confident in being able to pass the exam. Why waste money on exam fees if you keep failing due to poor learning? Then, once you have prepared for each exam just take the exam and pass then move onto the next one. Don't bother trying to race it, you will end up taking more time at it.
One thing I would be interested to know is if you are actually doing any ground school at all at the moment? This is one thing that you should be doing rather than just reading a confuser and expecting to pass - don't forget that you actually need to know some of this stuff and not just be able to select correct answers in the exam!
It will all depend on things like how much you already know, how much time you can dedicate each day, how fast a learner you are, how good you are at studying, how good you are at reading multiple choice questions.... and a lot more.
Some exams are pretty obvious and common sense after doing the learning, some need a lot more practical learning such as Nav and RT. If you are also flying at the same time you are gaining this practical knowledge as well but there is a difference between the doing and the passing of the exam.
I suggest that you allow enough time to learn each subject properly, so you are confident in being able to pass the exam. Why waste money on exam fees if you keep failing due to poor learning? Then, once you have prepared for each exam just take the exam and pass then move onto the next one. Don't bother trying to race it, you will end up taking more time at it.
One thing I would be interested to know is if you are actually doing any ground school at all at the moment? This is one thing that you should be doing rather than just reading a confuser and expecting to pass - don't forget that you actually need to know some of this stuff and not just be able to select correct answers in the exam!
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Yeah fair point! and nope no ground school, i've got the ppl dvd's which i'm going to learn from its just my instructor wants me to do all my exams before i start any flying..but i would ideally want my PPL done by september...possible or ambitious? 
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Hmm I agree, i mean i dont know much about it at the moment but i would have thought it would help flying at the same time to get the knowledge to relate to the practical part? but yeah this place is my only choice and they want all the exams done first to prove students are really committed which i guess is fair enough really, just so so much to learn in such a short time! 
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I don't agree.
It's lot easier to understend all the theoretical stuff when you got some flying experience.
I'm in France, I don't know your british exam. I'm near to the end of practical instruction, near to solo cross country flights, I did the theretical two weeks ago, all in one day and I got it.
A lot of it became easier having it already done in flight.
And sure, it more fun.
I'd look for another school too.
Why do it the hard way?
Flying is leisure and fun! (I hope for most private pilots)
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It's lot easier to understend all the theoretical stuff when you got some flying experience.
I'm in France, I don't know your british exam. I'm near to the end of practical instruction, near to solo cross country flights, I did the theretical two weeks ago, all in one day and I got it.
A lot of it became easier having it already done in flight.
And sure, it more fun.
I'd look for another school too.
Why do it the hard way?
Flying is leisure and fun! (I hope for most private pilots)
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I don't suppose these jokers have also suggested that you should pay for the whole course up front as well - just to 'show your committment'? If they have, don't do it, there are plenty of people who have lost large sums of money when their flying school went bust.
I would strongly urge you to find another school, I'm in north Bucks (Milton Keynes to be precise) and I can think of at least four flying schools at this end of the county and several more at the southern end. There are plenty of flying schools, all of which will be hungry for business.
I have honestly never heard of anyone being asked to do all the exams before they start to fly, it's a ludicrous idea.
Walk away!
I would strongly urge you to find another school, I'm in north Bucks (Milton Keynes to be precise) and I can think of at least four flying schools at this end of the county and several more at the southern end. There are plenty of flying schools, all of which will be hungry for business.
I have honestly never heard of anyone being asked to do all the exams before they start to fly, it's a ludicrous idea.
Walk away!
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It would be interesting to know why they think you need to show your commitment - is this a sponsored course?
To me - if you try to cram all of the exams in that quickly, you will forget it again just as quickly. The information you learn is designed to be essential knowledge that is needed for flying. You need to internalise much of it to be a good pilot - not just use the confuser to blindly pass.
I think that anyone would have difficulty reading through and understanding all of the information in the appropriate text books (or DVDs) in that time scale. I think many people would be able to pass the exams with the confuser and ignore the text books in that time scale if they worked pretty hard full time at it, but then you would be passing the exam, not knowing the material. I haven't done them all yet myself though, so I'm not the best person to answer.
If you really need to do this (and I doubt it) then make sure you properly know the material afterwards - revise everything again over a more reasonable time scale.
Your other question: PPL by September? It depends how much time/money you have, whether you pick things up quickly and if you are lucky with the weather. You can do intensive PPL courses in a month (probably somewhere outside the UK) or spread it over a much longer period. If you are at a small flight school, an aircraft going "tech" could stop lessons for weeks (or longer). Experience by recent people on this forum (including myself) with weather is that one in two lessons seem to be weather affected - cancelled or curtailed.
Today the plan was to do a couple of circuits with my instructor, then for him to jump out and for me to continue to do some more on my own. However the wind increased and moved to be coming across the runway so we did a couple of circuits
Generally, if you do a more intensive course, the total instruction time is slightly shorter as less re-learning is required.
So its really up to you how long you want to aim for, but make sure your instructor is on the same page as you are, and get him to keep you up to date how far you are through the course. They will be able to tell you whether your aim will be possible at their school / on track and / or likely.
To me - if you try to cram all of the exams in that quickly, you will forget it again just as quickly. The information you learn is designed to be essential knowledge that is needed for flying. You need to internalise much of it to be a good pilot - not just use the confuser to blindly pass.
I think that anyone would have difficulty reading through and understanding all of the information in the appropriate text books (or DVDs) in that time scale. I think many people would be able to pass the exams with the confuser and ignore the text books in that time scale if they worked pretty hard full time at it, but then you would be passing the exam, not knowing the material. I haven't done them all yet myself though, so I'm not the best person to answer.
If you really need to do this (and I doubt it) then make sure you properly know the material afterwards - revise everything again over a more reasonable time scale.
Your other question: PPL by September? It depends how much time/money you have, whether you pick things up quickly and if you are lucky with the weather. You can do intensive PPL courses in a month (probably somewhere outside the UK) or spread it over a much longer period. If you are at a small flight school, an aircraft going "tech" could stop lessons for weeks (or longer). Experience by recent people on this forum (including myself) with weather is that one in two lessons seem to be weather affected - cancelled or curtailed.
Today the plan was to do a couple of circuits with my instructor, then for him to jump out and for me to continue to do some more on my own. However the wind increased and moved to be coming across the runway so we did a couple of circuits
Generally, if you do a more intensive course, the total instruction time is slightly shorter as less re-learning is required.
So its really up to you how long you want to aim for, but make sure your instructor is on the same page as you are, and get him to keep you up to date how far you are through the course. They will be able to tell you whether your aim will be possible at their school / on track and / or likely.
I have honestly never heard of anyone being asked to do all the exams before they start to fly, it's a ludicrous idea.
Walk away!
Walk away!
I'd tell them that I was taking my money elsewhere, I wouldn't pay to be bullied.
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"The only reason why completion of exams might be done ahead of time might be if you were then coming to the US on a 4 week compressed training course so that the focus can be on the flight training"
That's what I did. Don't know what the big fuss is about the PPl exams, I did the 6 in 3 weeks from receipt of textbooks to last exam, while working full time running a company.
That's what I did. Don't know what the big fuss is about the PPl exams, I did the 6 in 3 weeks from receipt of textbooks to last exam, while working full time running a company.
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Welcome to the land of the PPL sausage factory.
yep loads of folk have done an exam every other day.
Its the only way you can do a 21 day ppl.
Read the book for a day between flights and do a morning of confuser and then sit the exam and then onto the next subject.
If you fail it never mind because it won't be recorded in your training file.
Hundreds of PPL students who have got there license in FL have done it this way. You won't remember much of it a few weeks later but.... such is life.
yep loads of folk have done an exam every other day.
Its the only way you can do a 21 day ppl.
Read the book for a day between flights and do a morning of confuser and then sit the exam and then onto the next subject.
If you fail it never mind because it won't be recorded in your training file.
Hundreds of PPL students who have got there license in FL have done it this way. You won't remember much of it a few weeks later but.... such is life.
If you fail it never mind because it won't be recorded in your training file.
Perhaps (real) EASA will change things?
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I did mine in pretty short order but I had plenty of prior exposure to flying. I did two per day whilst flying but did all my study at home over the previous weeks. probably equated to about 1.5 days of study per exam.
You'll find that your best study is done by fuelling your brain properly (it uses glycogen) by eating bananas and sipping Lucozade whilst studying. You'll find that more information sticks that way. The other study tip is to frequently need to recall information by testing yourself regularly and often throughout your period of study. This means not just by using the questions at the end of each chapter but also checking the confuser for questions on a part of a chapter you may have found difficult to 'get'. Its having to recall information that makes it stay in your brain.
Good luck.
You'll find that your best study is done by fuelling your brain properly (it uses glycogen) by eating bananas and sipping Lucozade whilst studying. You'll find that more information sticks that way. The other study tip is to frequently need to recall information by testing yourself regularly and often throughout your period of study. This means not just by using the questions at the end of each chapter but also checking the confuser for questions on a part of a chapter you may have found difficult to 'get'. Its having to recall information that makes it stay in your brain.
Good luck.
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Hey mate,
I'm about to start flying lessons (GFPT) and work my way up. Most of the schools (reputable with proven history of success) I've been to in Melbourne have a pay as you go policy and also all of the make sure you're ready to sit for the theory / flying exam. Safety first!!
This place asking you to prove your commitment, sets the ole spider sense to tingle mode.
I'm about to start flying lessons (GFPT) and work my way up. Most of the schools (reputable with proven history of success) I've been to in Melbourne have a pay as you go policy and also all of the make sure you're ready to sit for the theory / flying exam. Safety first!!
This place asking you to prove your commitment, sets the ole spider sense to tingle mode.
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Yeah i agree, get what you guys are saying but then again, i was told its because they don't actually make any profit on it (apparently) its £38 an hour on a motorglider..so they want to know students are actually in it for a ppl not just messing around?
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Yeah that's it 
my main concern really was the exams rather than the fact i need to get them done, they gotta be done anyway sooner or later, might aswell get them out of the way, but any study tips?
my main concern really was the exams rather than the fact i need to get them done, they gotta be done anyway sooner or later, might aswell get them out of the way, but any study tips?