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When I'm out in my workshop my scanner is always on....one of the frequency's programmed in is 123.45...its quite a busy freq with all the jet jocks talking about the most mundane subjects...so a few more should not cause a prob I would have thought.
Last edited by magpienja; 8th Jun 2011 at 08:14.
to enable aircraft engaged in flights over remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations to exchange necessary operational information
but isn't this exactly what I and others have been saying...?!
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to enable aircraft engaged in flights over remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations to exchange necessary operational information
I hadn't read the AIC but isn't this exactly what I and others have been saying...?!
I hadn't read the AIC but isn't this exactly what I and others have been saying...?!
Any smartarsed barrack room lawyers who think that they can twist the wording of the AIC to suit their own purposes should also note:
So if a gaggle of flying tourists start yakking away on 123.45, they should be aware that Others May Be Listening....
Once again, 123.45 MHz is not a 'general' air-to-air frequency in UK airspace.
3 Frequency Monitoring
3.1 In common with other frequency assignments, the CAA will monitor frequency 123.45 MHz at intervals for compliance with the published procedures.
3.1 In common with other frequency assignments, the CAA will monitor frequency 123.45 MHz at intervals for compliance with the published procedures.
Once again, 123.45 MHz is not a 'general' air-to-air frequency in UK airspace.
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What frequency should one use?
One needs to use "something" when flying in an informal photo-shoot formation for example, to assist forming up in a safe manner, and afterwards.
One needs to use "something" when flying in an informal photo-shoot formation for example, to assist forming up in a safe manner, and afterwards.
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This is just another of those aviation situations.
It is illegal - why? Because!!
Just like the vast majority of other legal requirements there is no safety justification, indeed in many ways there is actually evidence that some of these things would improve safety.
The CAA 'will monitor the frequency' - and do what I wonder? Without names or callsigns what will they do - issue another AIC saying it is illegal to say that using this frequency is illegal? Pass legislation removing this frequency from the band???
Flying in Canada there are local frequencies where pilots announce their local, intentions, positions etc. The radio is fairly disciplined and very useful - especially where flying VFR through a pass or similar. It offer salmost the sort of service we sometimes used to get from Flight Information.
When I commented that these sort of transmissions would be illegal in the UK my instructor looked at me and said 'that is a pretty dumb rule'.
Which largely sums up much of this sort of stuff. Once companies have to pay for their dedicated frequencies courtesy of OFCOM I suppose we may seem more of a push to enforce these silly rules - even though there will probably be many more vacant channels.....
It is illegal - why? Because!!
Just like the vast majority of other legal requirements there is no safety justification, indeed in many ways there is actually evidence that some of these things would improve safety.
The CAA 'will monitor the frequency' - and do what I wonder? Without names or callsigns what will they do - issue another AIC saying it is illegal to say that using this frequency is illegal? Pass legislation removing this frequency from the band???
Flying in Canada there are local frequencies where pilots announce their local, intentions, positions etc. The radio is fairly disciplined and very useful - especially where flying VFR through a pass or similar. It offer salmost the sort of service we sometimes used to get from Flight Information.
When I commented that these sort of transmissions would be illegal in the UK my instructor looked at me and said 'that is a pretty dumb rule'.
Which largely sums up much of this sort of stuff. Once companies have to pay for their dedicated frequencies courtesy of OFCOM I suppose we may seem more of a push to enforce these silly rules - even though there will probably be many more vacant channels.....
