TA Aviation/ MK Flying School Cranfield- Ops Suspended
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Possibly is theft, but was looking at what Ziggy said
and wondering if Camion was looking at a delay rather than worse.
The lady said that it will be atleast three months before they are up and running again?
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Also near Milton Keynes . . .
Just as an aside for people in the MK catchment area, there is also Pilot Flight Training at Hinton in the Hedges - about 35mins from Milton Keynes.
They have recently expanded their fleet, adding a Piper PA28 and PA38 Tomahawk to the Cessna 150 and T61 motor glider. According to a pal of mine who visited recently, the aircraft are well looked after and the hire and training rates are very reasonable.
Clive Stainer who runs the operation, has an excellent reputation and is a highly experienced flying instructor who is also an examiner. The school number is: 01295 812775.
And no, I'm not a member of the school!
They have recently expanded their fleet, adding a Piper PA28 and PA38 Tomahawk to the Cessna 150 and T61 motor glider. According to a pal of mine who visited recently, the aircraft are well looked after and the hire and training rates are very reasonable.
Clive Stainer who runs the operation, has an excellent reputation and is a highly experienced flying instructor who is also an examiner. The school number is: 01295 812775.
And no, I'm not a member of the school!
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My husband also bought me the one hour flying lesson for Christmas and I also was waiting for the Summer.
I have left messages but neither of the phone numbers are being answered, the website page does not appear to exist and the email address is bouncing back as delivery fail. Not looking good.
I have left messages but neither of the phone numbers are being answered, the website page does not appear to exist and the email address is bouncing back as delivery fail. Not looking good.
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Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to update you all on the situation.
I have sent Terry Akeroyd a final demand letter to his home address first class recorded. I have evidence that he received the letter personally, he actually signed for it himself.
Basically trading standards have informed me that if he doesn't respond to the letter within 28 days of receiving it, I can proceed to a small claims court.
So far it has been a week and nothing.....I think I know the result of this, however it is a process that has to be done before proceeding to court!
Unfortunately leaving messages on answer phones or emailing is not the way forward, I have been to Cranfield on several occasions to see if anyone knew anything, the hut from which TA aviation were operating is completely empty and all phone numbers were routed there.
Best idea is to try and get his home address and do what I have done. It's a little tricky to find but a good bit of detective work and I promise you it is out there!
At the end of the day, the half decent thing to do would be to contact all the people for whom he had booking and explain the situation.
Not to be a COWARD and disappear off the face of the planet!
VictoriaB you are in the exact same situation as me, also you had the same idea about summer, I am glad I am not the only one!
Also after speaking with many people at Cranfield the rumour is that Terry Akeryod "folded the company". Not sure why when or what the CAA have to do with it, but maybe we'll never know!?
Piece of advice for anyone wanting to buy a trial flight for a christmas/birthday present.
Just write in a card that this is what you have bought them, and don't pay until the day they are ready to fly!
If anyone has had any other luck please let me know.
Good Luck to everyone!
Just wanted to update you all on the situation.
I have sent Terry Akeroyd a final demand letter to his home address first class recorded. I have evidence that he received the letter personally, he actually signed for it himself.
Basically trading standards have informed me that if he doesn't respond to the letter within 28 days of receiving it, I can proceed to a small claims court.
So far it has been a week and nothing.....I think I know the result of this, however it is a process that has to be done before proceeding to court!
Unfortunately leaving messages on answer phones or emailing is not the way forward, I have been to Cranfield on several occasions to see if anyone knew anything, the hut from which TA aviation were operating is completely empty and all phone numbers were routed there.
Best idea is to try and get his home address and do what I have done. It's a little tricky to find but a good bit of detective work and I promise you it is out there!
At the end of the day, the half decent thing to do would be to contact all the people for whom he had booking and explain the situation.
Not to be a COWARD and disappear off the face of the planet!
VictoriaB you are in the exact same situation as me, also you had the same idea about summer, I am glad I am not the only one!
Also after speaking with many people at Cranfield the rumour is that Terry Akeryod "folded the company". Not sure why when or what the CAA have to do with it, but maybe we'll never know!?
Piece of advice for anyone wanting to buy a trial flight for a christmas/birthday present.
Just write in a card that this is what you have bought them, and don't pay until the day they are ready to fly!
If anyone has had any other luck please let me know.
Good Luck to everyone!
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It's my understanding that if Mr. T.A. is a director of a LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY, he cannot be held personally liable ,UNLESS the company was being traded fraudulently ( knowingly insolvent)
If he was a sole trader or a partnership, the buck DOES stop with him.- That's why it is a lot easier to get bank-loans/finance for a business that is not limited.....you risk everything you own if it all goes t**s up.
Even if he took your money personally, provided it was a solvent limited co., he was acting as an employee. not a morally correct mode of conduct, but probably a legal one.
NEVER pay all up front, dodgy people don't just do building work, double glazing or repair cars
If he was a sole trader or a partnership, the buck DOES stop with him.- That's why it is a lot easier to get bank-loans/finance for a business that is not limited.....you risk everything you own if it all goes t**s up.
Even if he took your money personally, provided it was a solvent limited co., he was acting as an employee. not a morally correct mode of conduct, but probably a legal one.
NEVER pay all up front, dodgy people don't just do building work, double glazing or repair cars
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Some Progression!
The other day I was driving in my car and my mobile phone rang, I pulled over to answer it (as everyone should!) and it was a solicitor calling on behalf of Terry saying that basically he has declared bankruptcy and that his assets have been sold.
So the porta-cabin and his three planes have been liquidated into cash.
Obviously I asked the burning question, "will I get any money back?", the lady assured me that there would be some form of payout, but was unsure of exactly what that would be. She asked for my address and yesterday I received a letter outlining his entire business debts and assets, let me just say it is not looking pretty!
It was a rather long legal piece of jargon and I can't quite make out whether I will be seeing any of the money, however it would appear to probably be around 1p/£1 or something ridiculous like that.
I am actually really frustrated because it says in the letter a little sob story about how the company struggled back in April or something, blah blah. It's all just really frustrating.
I think the law or whatever should certainly be changed in these area's because consumers, which is what we are not creditors, are getting shafted. Some big companies have fallen and affected many customers.
But anyway, if anyone hasn't received a call or a letter and would like the address/phone number of the company dealing with it then please PM me and I will be happy to give that to you. You might end up getting enough for an ice cream to enjoy on this hot hot weekend which would have been perfect for flying
Thanks for all your advice help and support regarding this!
So the porta-cabin and his three planes have been liquidated into cash.
Obviously I asked the burning question, "will I get any money back?", the lady assured me that there would be some form of payout, but was unsure of exactly what that would be. She asked for my address and yesterday I received a letter outlining his entire business debts and assets, let me just say it is not looking pretty!
It was a rather long legal piece of jargon and I can't quite make out whether I will be seeing any of the money, however it would appear to probably be around 1p/£1 or something ridiculous like that.
I am actually really frustrated because it says in the letter a little sob story about how the company struggled back in April or something, blah blah. It's all just really frustrating.
I think the law or whatever should certainly be changed in these area's because consumers, which is what we are not creditors, are getting shafted. Some big companies have fallen and affected many customers.
But anyway, if anyone hasn't received a call or a letter and would like the address/phone number of the company dealing with it then please PM me and I will be happy to give that to you. You might end up getting enough for an ice cream to enjoy on this hot hot weekend which would have been perfect for flying
Thanks for all your advice help and support regarding this!
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I wouldn't count on seeing a penny back unfortunately. If the business books were that bad then HMRC will have first shout on all there money (including any fines, which rack up at a unbelievable rate)
There is a basically a hierarchy of debtors who get paid from whatever assets are tied to the LTD company then they throw a few penny’s at the public who put there hard earned in.
Don’t let it put you off flying though!
There is a basically a hierarchy of debtors who get paid from whatever assets are tied to the LTD company then they throw a few penny’s at the public who put there hard earned in.
Don’t let it put you off flying though!
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Hi Benppl,
Basically I asked this when the lady first called me and she seemed to think that there is no longer this hierarchy as you describe. I was pleasantly surprised when she said this and thought there mat be an opportunity to get a little bit back.
However you are probably correct regarding the HMRC, oh well fingers crossed. I am just happy to hear SOMETHING, rather than the nothing-ness that was heard until this phonecall, despite several letters to Terry's home address, with proof of him signing for them!
If anyone is still interested in atleast attempting to get some money back then please, PM me and I'll give you the details of this company.
It certainly won't be putting me off flying, accept for the fact that I will probably have to wait to be able to afford a flight now!
Will still be persuing British Airways next year also once I have my degree!
Basically I asked this when the lady first called me and she seemed to think that there is no longer this hierarchy as you describe. I was pleasantly surprised when she said this and thought there mat be an opportunity to get a little bit back.
However you are probably correct regarding the HMRC, oh well fingers crossed. I am just happy to hear SOMETHING, rather than the nothing-ness that was heard until this phonecall, despite several letters to Terry's home address, with proof of him signing for them!
If anyone is still interested in atleast attempting to get some money back then please, PM me and I'll give you the details of this company.
It certainly won't be putting me off flying, accept for the fact that I will probably have to wait to be able to afford a flight now!
Will still be persuing British Airways next year also once I have my degree!
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Any Falconer members?
I would be interested to hear from any members of what was the Falconer Flying Group (run by Terry Akeroid). A number of us paid £4,500 to join the group which provided an a/c to fly at group rates. In September, TA told me that effectively the shares in the group "died" when he crashed G-AVGD and it was written off. If that was the case, are there any members out there that received their share of the insurance payout?
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If you OWN a share in the aircraft then you should have an equall share of the insurance pay ouy. If you paid for a share in a 'Non Equity' group then treat it as a club membership, you are not an owner andno one owns you anything.
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Is that the same company that owned G-BMVL (An ex BA flying club tomahawk) ? I had wondered why I hadn't seen it about recently.
Abit of a bad time of late for flying schools at Cranfield it appears.
Abit of a bad time of late for flying schools at Cranfield it appears.
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What is interesting is that the PA38 BMVL was transferred and sold AFTER he stopped flying. Surely he knew by then that he was bankrupt.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT REGISTRATION OF AN AIRCRAFT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN OWNERSHIP and if it could be proved that BMVL was sold when the administrators should have been called in then that might be interesting
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT REGISTRATION OF AN AIRCRAFT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN OWNERSHIP and if it could be proved that BMVL was sold when the administrators should have been called in then that might be interesting
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Looking at Companies House records, neither TA Aviation nor MK Flying School have ever been registered - so it appears that neither were limited companies.
The Individual Insolvency Register shows that a bankruptcy order was made at Bedford County Court in regards to Terence Akeroyd on 17th August 2011, an automatic discharge of the bankruptcy will be made on 17th August 2012.
G-INFO shows that the PA38 G-BMVL was owned by Mr Akeroyd and there were two other aircraft on site as I recall. G-AXIO (a PA28 -140 without toe brakes) which was also owned by him and an unstrutted high wing Cessna, registration and ownership status unknown.
Both the Pipers appeared on the flyer.co.uk sales site for £15k each and the ownership of both passed to the same individual in Leighton Buzzard on 14/09/11.
So it would appear that he operated as a sole trader, the business failed, he was rendered bankrupt and the assets were sold off.
As for G-AVGD from the Falconer Flying Group, this is shown as having been solely owned by Mr Ackroyd on G-INFO, the details describing him as the 'Trustee' of that group. If the record is accurate and he was the sole owner, presumably any insurance payout would have gone to him.
The Individual Insolvency Register shows that a bankruptcy order was made at Bedford County Court in regards to Terence Akeroyd on 17th August 2011, an automatic discharge of the bankruptcy will be made on 17th August 2012.
G-INFO shows that the PA38 G-BMVL was owned by Mr Akeroyd and there were two other aircraft on site as I recall. G-AXIO (a PA28 -140 without toe brakes) which was also owned by him and an unstrutted high wing Cessna, registration and ownership status unknown.
Both the Pipers appeared on the flyer.co.uk sales site for £15k each and the ownership of both passed to the same individual in Leighton Buzzard on 14/09/11.
So it would appear that he operated as a sole trader, the business failed, he was rendered bankrupt and the assets were sold off.
As for G-AVGD from the Falconer Flying Group, this is shown as having been solely owned by Mr Ackroyd on G-INFO, the details describing him as the 'Trustee' of that group. If the record is accurate and he was the sole owner, presumably any insurance payout would have gone to him.
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Terry Ackeryod
For those of you who wish to see Terry Ackeryod I have been informed that he has started a share group at Shuttleworth with G-AXIO (confirmed by Shuttleworth on the phone)
Personally I would use any of the schools still based at Cranfield and can definately vouch for Cranfield Flying school
Personally I would use any of the schools still based at Cranfield and can definately vouch for Cranfield Flying school
