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Flight Equipment
Hi there, have recently joined Harvard Aviation in order to complete my PPL. Currently on excersise 9 im looking to buy all the equipment i will need. I currently have 2 books, Flying Training and Air Law & Meteorology, the AFE Vb1 A5 kneeboard, the c152 checklist, 100 sheets of VFR flight log and chinagraph pencils. I was also advised to download the EGKR ground chart and local flying area which i also have. With redhill being in the Gatwick airspace i have also downloaded the atc surveillance minimum altituded chart. Besides the other ppl books and flight computer, what else will i need/want to help my gain my PPL. Thanks Very Much!
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No comment on all the books, buy what you need.
I got through about five bags (at great cost) before I found what really worked and that's where the real wastage was. I settled on a Brightline bag, which is cracking. Since buying mine, they've modified it for A4 European documents, which makes a good product even better.
The best 100 pounds you'll spend. Get the bag right first time.
I got through about five bags (at great cost) before I found what really worked and that's where the real wastage was. I settled on a Brightline bag, which is cracking. Since buying mine, they've modified it for A4 European documents, which makes a good product even better.
The best 100 pounds you'll spend. Get the bag right first time.
As a PPL, I've worn out a few bags since 1987. My current bag is from the well known aviation goods supplier Tesco. It's the best I've had yet. Look for a bag to hold what you need. ( I can't remember what it cost, but it was a lot less than £100)
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I havent started any training yet, but intend to in the new year, so im also interested to hear what student materials and equipment everyone recommends.
Do you need your own headset, or will most flying schools let you use theirs??
Do you need your own headset, or will most flying schools let you use theirs??
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Interesting that you consider your circular slide rule to be something that becomes redundant upon gaining your PPL! 
the silly circular slide rule "computer"
I certainly think he's wrong, but please don't wind him up - it's not worth it.
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- Straightforward kneeboard (A5 trifolds work really well for PPL training)
- Cheap stopwatch from Argos or similar. Don't let anybody persuade you that you need to spend more than £10.
- brief-case sized bag/rucksack (really really don't waste money on expensive bags) from the local market / argos / whatever you had lurking in your cupboard.
- Long planning ruler with 1:250,000 and 1:500,000 scales
- Square planning protractor
- Whatever books your school recommends
- Pooleys CRP 1 or similar (check if the school has a preferred model)
- Some basic sunglasses (buy decent ones later if you decide you need to upgrade).
- Flying chart you can buy from your school when you need it
- Planning pad you should use whatever your school prefers, so buy it from them (or once you've had more practice, design your own and print on your home PC).
- Start with a school headset, try a few different sorts if you can borrow them to try, buy your own when you feel the time is right, but don't do it too early, there really is no need in the first few hours.
Early on you really don't need an expensive headset, expensive flying bag, charts until your instructor says you do, expensive "pilot" sunglasses or stopwatch (this last, probably ever).
eBay is good for saving money.
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IO540
Interesting that you consider your circular slide rule to be something that becomes redundant upon gaining your PPL!
IO540 is well known for believing that all calculations and navigation should be done electronically and all "whizz-wheels" should be buried at midnight in an unmarked grave.
I certainly think he's wrong, but please don't wind him up - it's not worth it.
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Originally Posted by TheChitterneFlyer
IO540
Interesting that you consider your circular slide rule to be something that becomes redundant upon gaining your PPL!
IO540 is well known for believing that all calculations and navigation should be done electronically and all "whizz-wheels" should be buried at midnight in an unmarked grave.
I certainly think he's wrong, but please don't wind him up - it's not worth it.
G
This wasn't what the original poster asked about, and he'll certainly need a whizz-wheel to pass his PPL.
How about taking this month's repetition of the "whizz-wheels are/are-not the invention of satan" argument to one of the couple of dozen threads which already exist on the subject?
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How about taking this month's repetition of the "whizz-wheels are/are-not the invention of satan" argument to one of the couple of dozen threads which already exist on the subject?
G
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IO540 is well known for believing that all calculations and navigation should be done electronically
and all "whizz-wheels" should be buried at midnight in an unmarked grave.
But then I've never been past the crease in the map
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You'll probably need a few 12" rulers... they're to replace the ones that your instructor breaks when he whacks you for going above 1500ft 
Good luck with your training. I did my PPL(H) there when Redhill Helicopters were flying out of hangar 1, had a great time at Redhill
Good luck with your training. I did my PPL(H) there when Redhill Helicopters were flying out of hangar 1, had a great time at Redhill
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AFE PPL Course Series Pack : AFE - Airplan Flight Equipment
I used to teach using these books and found them very easy to use.
Use the aircraft stopwatch or timer on the ADF - turn it off and then on again on the runway for your FLT (flight) time and rest for ET (elapsed time - stopwatch). It is always visable in your scan as looking down into your lap is bound to mess up your flying. As long as you have a watch, you are legal.
I like the A4 boards because you can put them out of the way - keep it simple. Clip your plate to the back of the map so you don't fumble through a kneeboard adn again, you can raise it to eye height to see detail, not lower you head into your lap.
Bring the map upto you, don't look down if you can avoid it (don't strap it to a kneeboard).
I used to teach using these books and found them very easy to use.
Use the aircraft stopwatch or timer on the ADF - turn it off and then on again on the runway for your FLT (flight) time and rest for ET (elapsed time - stopwatch). It is always visable in your scan as looking down into your lap is bound to mess up your flying. As long as you have a watch, you are legal.
I like the A4 boards because you can put them out of the way - keep it simple. Clip your plate to the back of the map so you don't fumble through a kneeboard adn again, you can raise it to eye height to see detail, not lower you head into your lap.
Bring the map upto you, don't look down if you can avoid it (don't strap it to a kneeboard).
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I got my own headset really early on as I wanted to breathe my own germs!
The club had Peltor sets and they were very good,but I borrowed a brand new Pilot noise cancelling set from a pal, then bought my own and never regretted it.
You will now get a lot of mail about best headsets
The club had Peltor sets and they were very good,but I borrowed a brand new Pilot noise cancelling set from a pal, then bought my own and never regretted it.
You will now get a lot of mail about best headsets
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Ah headsets..........
Some pinch, some fall apart, mics fail, gel seals leak.
DC's everytime - I got a pair second hand from ebay 6 years ago for my CPL IR, instructed with them and have flown turboprops everyday for 4 years. All I have done is replaced the gel seals after they slimed me (although the ear-cup knickers captured most of it).
David Clark H10-60 : David Clark - Airplan Flight Equipment
Less than half price below:
David Clark H10-60 aviation headset perfect condition - eBay (item 290517606507 end time Dec-31-10 18:20:46 PST)
Sennheiser are good value but pinch my head after an hour - but that is just me.
Some pinch, some fall apart, mics fail, gel seals leak.
DC's everytime - I got a pair second hand from ebay 6 years ago for my CPL IR, instructed with them and have flown turboprops everyday for 4 years. All I have done is replaced the gel seals after they slimed me (although the ear-cup knickers captured most of it).
David Clark H10-60 : David Clark - Airplan Flight Equipment
Less than half price below:
David Clark H10-60 aviation headset perfect condition - eBay (item 290517606507 end time Dec-31-10 18:20:46 PST)
Sennheiser are good value but pinch my head after an hour - but that is just me.
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Headsets, Help!
Hi guys, mark again , so ive finally got my finances sorted and got my hours for use after my exams. Ive got everything i need for the moment, except a headset! Since ive spent so much already i would like to go reaaaaaal budget on this one, ive looked at a few including ASA HS-A1, Flight com 4DLX & 5DLX Pilot P51 headset & the sigtronics s20. If anyone has experience of these can you let me know how you found them, and also if anyone has anyone has any headsets for sale under £120 ( 1st, or 2nd hand is fine too) then please let me know the model and condition. Thanks very much for your help guys!
, so ive finally got my finances sorted and got my hours for use after my exams. Ive got everything i need for the moment, except a headset! Since ive spent so much already i would like to go reaaaaaal budget on this one, ive looked at a few including ASA HS-A1, Flight com 4DLX & 5DLX Pilot P51 headset & the sigtronics s20. If anyone has experience of these can you let me know how you found them, and also if anyone has anyone has any headsets for sale under £120 ( 1st, or 2nd hand is fine too) then please let me know the model and condition. Thanks very much for your help guys!
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headsets! fed up with the grubby club ones, any cheap yet decent qaulity headsets you can reccomend, or sell, i dont mind 2nd hand, but at the club 100th hand takes it to the extreme, cheers guys.