Is there a market for old Pilot magazines?
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Is there a market for old Pilot magazines?
I've got a vast pile of many hundreds of these going back to 1975, is there a market (if so, where?) or are they just good for recycling?
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Ditto....'Pilot' (seventies and eighties) and PBO. As common as muck. Since they are probably exceeding the design limitations of my loft I plan to consign them to the bin, Over...
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Last w/e - I had a wee tidy out!
Several hundred of mags, Sport Aviation, Flying, Private Pilot, Pilot and the PFA/LAA mag all consigned to the incinerator!
I offered them to my mate the GP for his surgery but he preferred The Field, Country Living and The Lady!!
I had my money's worth - can't imagine there being a huge market.
Stik
Several hundred of mags, Sport Aviation, Flying, Private Pilot, Pilot and the PFA/LAA mag all consigned to the incinerator!
I offered them to my mate the GP for his surgery but he preferred The Field, Country Living and The Lady!!
I had my money's worth - can't imagine there being a huge market.
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Ditto....'Pilot' (seventies and eighties) and PBO. As common as muck. Since they are probably exceeding the design limitations of my loft I plan to consign them to the bin, Over...
No Malcie they're talking about old pilot MAGAZINES, not old PILOTS..........
Get out of that skip Old Boy............There's years of life (and landings?!) in you yet!!!!
Love,
Jezza
No Malcie they're talking about old pilot MAGAZINES, not old PILOTS..........
Get out of that skip Old Boy............There's years of life (and landings?!) in you yet!!!!
Love,
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I used to take mine soon after I'd read them into the waiting rooms of my dentist , GP and expectant dads' room ot the local maternity hospital, to dilute out the almost exclusively wimmins' content of most waiting room mags.
Then came swine flu and a request to stop bringing them in because of the risk of infection.
My advice is to recycle 'em.
Cusco
Then came swine flu and a request to stop bringing them in because of the risk of infection.
My advice is to recycle 'em.
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Old Pilot Magazines
I'd be very keen to get a collection of old pilot magazines to predate my 1993 collection. I have found, and written to "Pilot" on more than one occasion mourning the death of intelligently composed aviation writing. One only has to compare an old review of an A/C written in 80's/90's to the present day piece to see the scale of what is being left out. When I challenged the editor Nick Bloom on the piece on the J3 Seaplane of 2009, he told me that they had to "dumb down" the magazine as it was losing readership when he took over. The new generation of pilots, which should have included me, seemingly couldn't stick the content. Notably I won the letter of the month but I'm still awaiting the famous £100 Transair Voucher, and the offer of Colin Goodwin's attendance to write an article which would set the record straight on the J3 Seaplane.
Last months piece on the Cessna 180 would have been better composed by my little sister who has would probably have a clearer grasp from her single flight in my 180. It seems to be lost to the Pilot flight test team that an aircraft should be evaluated in flight conditions similar to one would expect that A/C to be used in. Going for a bimble from one big grass strip to another yields little of the star qualities of the C180. One would expect a Mooney to be blast off to France on an IFR trip to get a feel for how it fits, similarly a Cessna Skywagon to be dropped off a 300m hillside strip loaded and flown through its paces then back into same or rougher in various wind load/conditions. If the unique abilities and mission profiles are not assessed and mods/drawbacks/maintenance issues illustrated then the article just misses the point. If you read car magazines they manage to frame things much better.
So stick them mags on Ebay, I'll bid. Perhaps "Pilot" could do me a reverse subscription starting with the year I was born, but if their current form is anything to go by I'll grow old waiting.
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Last months piece on the Cessna 180 would have been better composed by my little sister who has would probably have a clearer grasp from her single flight in my 180. It seems to be lost to the Pilot flight test team that an aircraft should be evaluated in flight conditions similar to one would expect that A/C to be used in. Going for a bimble from one big grass strip to another yields little of the star qualities of the C180. One would expect a Mooney to be blast off to France on an IFR trip to get a feel for how it fits, similarly a Cessna Skywagon to be dropped off a 300m hillside strip loaded and flown through its paces then back into same or rougher in various wind load/conditions. If the unique abilities and mission profiles are not assessed and mods/drawbacks/maintenance issues illustrated then the article just misses the point. If you read car magazines they manage to frame things much better.
So stick them mags on Ebay, I'll bid. Perhaps "Pilot" could do me a reverse subscription starting with the year I was born, but if their current form is anything to go by I'll grow old waiting.
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You could donate 30 year old mags to the local flying school.
They would go perfectly with the fleet parked outside, and would not induce the punters into thinking the grass is greener on the other side of the fence
They would go perfectly with the fleet parked outside, and would not induce the punters into thinking the grass is greener on the other side of the fence
I did put mine on eBay - about 30 years worth, of which most were bound in the nice blue Pilot binders - and got .... £10 , IIRC ! They were collected by a fellow pilot and they nigh filled his car boot.
Not quite the goldmine I thought they were.
Not quite the goldmine I thought they were.
Está servira para distraerle.
Might the same then be said for thirty five years of Flight International?
Any suggestions as to what to do with the same number of National Geographics which schools used to love long ago.
Any suggestions as to what to do with the same number of National Geographics which schools used to love long ago.
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A fairly good summing up of how I feel things have evolved over the last 30 years. James Gilbert, Alan Bramson etc and old those old writers deceased while GA reacreational flying in the UK, Australia and the USA is ever more restricted. Len Morgan and Gordon Baxter wrote great stuff in Flying but today there is nothing to entice me to buy it.
The other problem is that whatever your hobby you find yourself reading the same old articles receycled.
My old avmags went in the bin several years ago.
Old Pilot Magazines
I'd be very keen to get a collection of old pilot magazines to predate my 1993 collection. I have found, and written to "Pilot" on more than one occasion mourning the death of intelligently composed aviation writing. One only has to compare an old review of an A/C written in 80's/90's to the present day piece to see the scale of what is being left out. When I challenged the editor Nick Bloom on the piece on the J3 Seaplane of 2009, he told me that they had to "dumb down" the magazine as it was losing readership when he took over. The new generation of pilots, which should have included me, seemingly couldn't stick the content. Notably I won the letter of the month but I'm still awaiting the famous £100 Transair Voucher, and the offer of Colin Goodwin's attendance to write an article which would set the record straight on the J3 Seaplane.
Last months piece on the Cessna 180 would have been better composed by my little sister who has would probably have a clearer grasp from her single flight in my 180. It seems to be lost to the Pilot flight test team that an aircraft should be evaluated in flight conditions similar to one would expect that A/C to be used in. Going for a bimble from one big grass strip to another yields little of the star qualities of the C180. One would expect a Mooney to be blast off to France on an IFR trip to get a feel for how it fits, similarly a Cessna Skywagon to be dropped off a 300m hillside strip loaded and flown through its paces then back into same or rougher in various wind load/conditions. If the unique abilities and mission profiles are not assessed and mods/drawbacks/maintenance issues illustrated then the article just misses the point. If you read car magazines they manage to frame things much better.
So stick them mags on Ebay, I'll bid. Perhaps "Pilot" could do me a reverse subscription starting with the year I was born, but if their current form is anything to go by I'll grow old waiting.
I'd be very keen to get a collection of old pilot magazines to predate my 1993 collection. I have found, and written to "Pilot" on more than one occasion mourning the death of intelligently composed aviation writing. One only has to compare an old review of an A/C written in 80's/90's to the present day piece to see the scale of what is being left out. When I challenged the editor Nick Bloom on the piece on the J3 Seaplane of 2009, he told me that they had to "dumb down" the magazine as it was losing readership when he took over. The new generation of pilots, which should have included me, seemingly couldn't stick the content. Notably I won the letter of the month but I'm still awaiting the famous £100 Transair Voucher, and the offer of Colin Goodwin's attendance to write an article which would set the record straight on the J3 Seaplane.
Last months piece on the Cessna 180 would have been better composed by my little sister who has would probably have a clearer grasp from her single flight in my 180. It seems to be lost to the Pilot flight test team that an aircraft should be evaluated in flight conditions similar to one would expect that A/C to be used in. Going for a bimble from one big grass strip to another yields little of the star qualities of the C180. One would expect a Mooney to be blast off to France on an IFR trip to get a feel for how it fits, similarly a Cessna Skywagon to be dropped off a 300m hillside strip loaded and flown through its paces then back into same or rougher in various wind load/conditions. If the unique abilities and mission profiles are not assessed and mods/drawbacks/maintenance issues illustrated then the article just misses the point. If you read car magazines they manage to frame things much better.
So stick them mags on Ebay, I'll bid. Perhaps "Pilot" could do me a reverse subscription starting with the year I was born, but if their current form is anything to go by I'll grow old waiting.
The other problem is that whatever your hobby you find yourself reading the same old articles receycled.
My old avmags went in the bin several years ago.
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At last I have the cash and time to buy into a (cheap) group this spring - so I'll need my 300-ish back issues for my homework. Then they're firelighters.
I have to agree about the quality of the current flight tests - e.g. this month's look at the Piper Sport LSA .. the air-to-air shots are nice (you can count the rivets) but the panel shots are useless -can't read most of the legends.
Also nothing on price or availability or running costs.
OK, OK if I'm so picky, why don't I try writing them ...
SD
I have to agree about the quality of the current flight tests - e.g. this month's look at the Piper Sport LSA .. the air-to-air shots are nice (you can count the rivets) but the panel shots are useless -can't read most of the legends.
Also nothing on price or availability or running costs.
OK, OK if I'm so picky, why don't I try writing them ...
SD
Old Mags Are Dangerous
All this sort of stuff from the 70-80's should be treated as "restricted material" as if it gets into the wrong hands it would cause civil unrest amongst the current generation of new or "would be" pilots.
When i mentioned about a "breakfast patrol" to someone recently they thought it was about motorbikes and macdonalds and had no idea that these events actually happened.
On one notable operation Gatwick phoned up the Tiger Club at Redhill early one morning and asked if we could inform the pilot of a certain biplane in the Leith Hill area to stop intercepting some of their departing smaller traffic (one was a Heron) (the pilot of which objected to his number being taken whilst the aircraft was inverted "above" him) as he had no intention of claiming a free breakfast anyway.This early morning "winter" occasion produced over 100 visitor movements and only 2 free breakfasts (who cheated) and was all non radio of course.
Another "attack" on an airfield near london saw a Stampe finish his "arrival" dive with an inverted (smoke on) 200ft run alongside the runway from the east, this really looked really exciting to the "cooks" below,but even more exiting to the occupants of another aircraft doing the same thing from the west !!!
The strange thing is these were "normal" w/end events and i do not recall they caused any problems mainly due to the fact that pilots were used to "looking outside" rather than "asking about traffic".
So you better get rid of those mags so as not to make todays pilots feel they are missing something.
When i mentioned about a "breakfast patrol" to someone recently they thought it was about motorbikes and macdonalds and had no idea that these events actually happened.
On one notable operation Gatwick phoned up the Tiger Club at Redhill early one morning and asked if we could inform the pilot of a certain biplane in the Leith Hill area to stop intercepting some of their departing smaller traffic (one was a Heron) (the pilot of which objected to his number being taken whilst the aircraft was inverted "above" him) as he had no intention of claiming a free breakfast anyway.This early morning "winter" occasion produced over 100 visitor movements and only 2 free breakfasts (who cheated) and was all non radio of course.
Another "attack" on an airfield near london saw a Stampe finish his "arrival" dive with an inverted (smoke on) 200ft run alongside the runway from the east, this really looked really exciting to the "cooks" below,but even more exiting to the occupants of another aircraft doing the same thing from the west !!!
The strange thing is these were "normal" w/end events and i do not recall they caused any problems mainly due to the fact that pilots were used to "looking outside" rather than "asking about traffic".
So you better get rid of those mags so as not to make todays pilots feel they are missing something.
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What a delicious (?) can of worms has been opened here. My collection will have to go very soon but I may keep one issue from each year, for comparative purposes.
The deterioration in standards of journalism seems to me to be more noticeable in this specific market. There is little excuse for slipshod grammar and non-existent proof-reading, both of which distract from the subject matter. I want professionals to maintain the standards we know we should strive to achieve. I cannot be the only reader who thinks we deserve better and have said so, but my latest comments attracted only the equivalent of an editorial shrug, to the effect of "it's beyond my control".
Things took a new turn when one issue contained a leaflet advertising herbal viagra, or something of that ilk...
The deterioration in standards of journalism seems to me to be more noticeable in this specific market. There is little excuse for slipshod grammar and non-existent proof-reading, both of which distract from the subject matter. I want professionals to maintain the standards we know we should strive to achieve. I cannot be the only reader who thinks we deserve better and have said so, but my latest comments attracted only the equivalent of an editorial shrug, to the effect of "it's beyond my control".
Things took a new turn when one issue contained a leaflet advertising herbal viagra, or something of that ilk...