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Mode S and the Netherlands - difference between TMZ and everywhere else?

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Old 1st July 2010 | 09:18
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Avgas in Lelystad will cost you 2,53 euros per litre at the moment.
Flying over The Netherlands is very nice at 500 ft. So don`t worry about staying below 1200.
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Old 1st July 2010 | 15:43
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That's all useful, thanks all! I will plan for one of the other two.
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Old 1st July 2010 | 19:15
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£2.10 a litre, that is almost the same as a good bottle of wine.

That is over £200 an hour flat out. or a little over a £1 a mile or 33p a minute.
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Old 2nd July 2010 | 07:03
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Mode C in Dutch airspace

Flew to Essen via Midden Zeeland last week VFR in a/c with only mode C. We kept out of controlled airspace and had flight following with Dutch Mil the whole route.
We were not restricted to 1200ft or less and had no problems without mode S.
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Old 2nd July 2010 | 07:22
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had flight following with Dutch Mil the whole route
Actually Dutch Mil is greatly understaffed at the moment. We've had a presentation of them at our club which essentially came down to two things:
- If you don't need any information from us, don't call us but just monitor the frequency. Pertinent info like the QNH will be broadcast regularly.
- If you do need us we're there but don't expect anything more than just a flight information service. Yes, we do have radar but don't expect any traffic warnings or deconfliction advice.

Furthermore, it regularly happens that a single Dutch Mil controller is working multiple frequencies at the same time. Not just Dutch Mil Info (132.35) but also VHF frequencies for higher airspace with IFR traffic, and a bunch of UHF military frequencies.

They're working on a project right now that's supposed to provide an ATIS-like service for the Dutch FIR with the QNH and some other important information, like which military CTRs are active and not, and thus require a clearance to cross or not. Thus reducing the requests for that sort of information even less. All to clear up their frequencies for those pilots that actually need something from Dutch Mil.

I don't know if it was your intention to suggest so, but "flight following" is a strictly defined concept (in the US) and Dutch Mil Info is nowhere near able to provide a similar service at the moment.
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