Do logbook hours expire?
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Do logbook hours expire?
I found an old logbook from about 10 years ago with about 4 hours logged "PUT" in a C152
Recently I've been considering doing a BGA Glider Pilot to NPPL conversion and that requires a minimum of 10 hours flying training
Now I know that the amount of hours I actually have bears little relation to how many I will need to satisfy an instructor.. but just for the sake of accuracy.. do those 4 hours still contribute toward my training total? For NPPL or even for JAR PPL ?
Recently I've been considering doing a BGA Glider Pilot to NPPL conversion and that requires a minimum of 10 hours flying training
Now I know that the amount of hours I actually have bears little relation to how many I will need to satisfy an instructor.. but just for the sake of accuracy.. do those 4 hours still contribute toward my training total? For NPPL or even for JAR PPL ?
Provided they are genuine and can be verified if required... !
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May I give you a link to the NPPL site, where there's a button on the Home Page - Licence allowances: NPPL Home Page
I haven't looked but I would expect that your question would be answered there.
I haven't looked but I would expect that your question would be answered there.
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If logbook hours expired after 10 years, I'd only be able to claim about half the hours I do - I don't propose to do so!
Logbook hours don't expire, it's just that some regulatory requirements require certain numbers of hours within a certain period of time.
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Logbook hours don't expire, it's just that some regulatory requirements require certain numbers of hours within a certain period of time.
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Provided they are genuine and can be verified if required...
It is an offence to make, with intent to deceive, any false representations for the purpose of procuring the grant, issue, renewal or variation of any certificate, licence, approval, permission or other document. Persons doing so render themselves liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (currently £5000, or in Northern Ireland £2000) and on conviction on indictment to an unlimited fine or imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or both.
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I wasn't sure if "pre-PPL" hours ceased to be relevant for PPL purposes. They were done at a flying school which is still about (still owns the same aircraft!)
Now how about hours from my cadet flights in a Chipmunk or a Vigilant SLMG?
Now how about hours from my cadet flights in a Chipmunk or a Vigilant SLMG?
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Chimpunk = SEP
Vigilant T1 = TMG (technically it should probably be SEP, but CAA changed their minds on that a few years ago).
So long as it was with a service qualified flying instructor, or properly authorised solo, it counts. Passenger flying with a qualified service pilot who wasn't an instructor, doesn't.
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Vigilant T1 = TMG (technically it should probably be SEP, but CAA changed their minds on that a few years ago).
So long as it was with a service qualified flying instructor, or properly authorised solo, it counts. Passenger flying with a qualified service pilot who wasn't an instructor, doesn't.
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Your P/UT hours should count towards the minimum requirement fot the NPPL, but of course completion of the NPPL requires however many hours it takes you to reach the standard necessary to pass the various tests...
When I started flying power I already had some 130 gliding hours and a Silver C, fondly hoped to get my NPPL in 10 hours.
47 hours later, I gained a PPL(A)...
When I started flying power I already had some 130 gliding hours and a Silver C, fondly hoped to get my NPPL in 10 hours.
47 hours later, I gained a PPL(A)...
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another silly questions: Why do we actually log hours when flying aircraft? How did this start?
I would say so we can proof our experience. However for driving different cars, trucks etc we dont. Is this not kind of similar? For boating I have a logbook as well, but
nobody requiers your to log hours.
I would say so we can proof our experience. However for driving different cars, trucks etc we dont. Is this not kind of similar? For boating I have a logbook as well, but
nobody requiers your to log hours.
