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Old 10th May 2010, 18:16
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Having looked about, I settled for Old Buck, where I felt at home. The deciding factors were:

A great set of instructors with a wealth of experience.
Landing fees/membership/resources free (including headset when you pass)
Proximity (diesel is NOT cheap these days).

It's possibly the case that training is cheaper elsewhere, but on balance I'm training at an at airfield which I'm happy to be, and I've had no reason to regret the decision - far from it. I think this is an important factor, having heard various stories of screaming instructors etc ruining the experience.
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Old 10th May 2010, 20:00
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Old Buckenham

I reckon you made the right decision,the CFI is incredibly helpful,and certainly never shouts.
He hums and makes little sounds to himself,taps whatever intrument you have just mis read or not read,and never makes you feel stupid.
The other instructor I flew with at Old Buck was exactly the same,I think I had a couple of lessons with other instructors but basically it was Gerry or Andrew,both excellent.
Good luck and happy flying.
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Old 11th May 2010, 09:56
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What about going for an NPPLA (M) ?
£120/hour at Northrepps in a modern reliable 912 3-axis C42 ? Less hours needed to qualify, and a simple conversion to SSEA if you want more seats or insist on flying an old avgas guzzling aircraft when you do get your licence.
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Old 11th May 2010, 21:06
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Thank You

Firstly a big thank you to all of you who've taken the time to reply I'm in the first stage of dealing with my new-found aviation addiction and getting my PPL is a really important step, so it's great to have all this feedback.

I've decided I am going to go with either the Anglian Air Centre or try out Seething. Norwich Airport is literally 5 minutes drive away from me, so that's a big plus point. However, I like the social side that Seething offers. I'll try out both and make a decision that way.

My goal is to fly commercially some day for one of the major carriers - doing the PPL while I work towards the insane amount of money I need to do the training. Anyone wishing to contribute is more than welcome (Web design/Mac & PC Support/Consultancy anyone?)

By the way, it'd be great to meet up with anyone who's going down the same or a similar route.

Thanks again

M
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Old 12th May 2010, 06:56
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Ed Chapman

Is anyone in contact with Ed Chapman, formerly (great) instructor at the Norwich School of Flying? I tried the lost and found section on this website but no success....

He became airline pilot at Manchester I was told and later incorporated into EZY but i never managed to get an email address...
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Old 15th May 2010, 16:34
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When I see Brian next I shall ask him if he's still in contact for you.
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Old 15th May 2010, 16:59
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Mark,

I work for the Norwich School of Flying and we operate out of the same hangar as Anglia Air Centre. Both are good schools with great instructors and more importantly, the attitude that the student comes first. So really it comes down to a personal choice. why not make arrangements to see both? Old Buckenham I have no experience of i'm afraid.

If you're wanting to go commercial I would recommend that you speak with an instructor (Simon) who works at several of the schools at Norwich and was asked to write several guides on the subject a short while ago. Give me a bell if thats something you'd like to do and I can probably arrange that.
Also we have several people at varying stage of their commercial careers from just starting out to actually in Airline employment you could speak to.

With regards to some of the comments regarding learning to fly at a larger airfield with full ATC or a smaller one, both have their merits but i would lean toward the larger. Its a bit like learning to drive in London.. after that anythings easier.

Some other things to consider;

Do not under any circumstances pay for ANYTHING bar a trial lesson in advance. Some schools may try and tempt you with a discount for paying up front, avoid for the following reasons.
1) It is impossible to price a PPL up for someone as some have done because the apptitude of students varies so much, anyone who says different is lying
2)Profit margins in flight training are tiny against huge costs, organisations offering discounts often need cash quickly and may (as in the case of my friend) not even be around to complete the training you have paid for. I CANNOT EMPHASIS THIS ENOUGH!

Some schools have a better reputation for teaching than others who concentrate on what I would call more the leisure market, often there is very little in the way of briefings and debriefings in an effort to get more flying hours out of the aircraft. 2 hours for a 1 hour slot is what you should be aiming for. Ask what you should expect.

Look for an established school lets face it if they weren't any good would they still be here?

Look at the facilities. You're going to need to do exams and radio tests does the school have the facility to do both? only one in Norfolk does.

Cost per hour on paper is not a very good comparison, value for money is very different. Meet the instructors you'd be having and see what you think. A good instructor can save you money even if they are a little more expensive per hour. Make sure prices are all inclusive. some add VAT.

I hope this helps somewhat anyway and whatever you decide I wish you luck.

Regards
David

PS Small B I presume that is Small Boy?
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Old 15th May 2010, 17:45
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Mark,
If Norwich Airport is only 5 minutes away that is a significant factor. Good luck with your PPL.

David,
You say only one school in Norfolk has facilities for exams and radio tests. Since I know from experience that Old Buck does, is that the one you meant?

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Old 15th May 2010, 20:49
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A quick check confirms you're right. http://www.ukft.com/PDF/Worldwide%20...0locations.pdf

Appologies, there are two schools in Norfolk with radio examiners. Norwich School of Flying (2 examiners) and Old Buckenham (1)
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Old 17th May 2010, 00:22
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PPL Norwich

Johnny 3 stars..yep, Northrepps/Cromer International would be a good bet if you want to keep the cost down with a NPPL. Great crowd and very relaxed. Catch a cloud/gordon Shaw is a flying training organisation, not a 'Flight' training school. Its all hands on and all about handling the a/c. Get your basics there and then hit NWI for the group A endorsement. Old Buck also a great strip with GH providing sterling training on good a/c(PA28). Shipdham will teach you how to fly gliders but at the mo, not powered a/c. BOL.!!
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Old 18th May 2010, 15:59
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Is anyone in contact with Ed Chapman, formerly (great) instructor at the Norwich School of Flying? I tried the lost and found section on this website but no success....

He became airline pilot at Manchester I was told and later incorporated into EZY but i never managed to get an email address...
Brian says he hasn't been in contact for a very long time and isn't sure whats he's up to now.

Also he remembered your name and said to say that he hopes you are well and still flying.

David
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Old 19th May 2010, 21:27
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Just to let you all know - I had my 1st lesson with the Anglian Air School at Norwich Airport on Monday and it was amazing! Great people and very friendly atmosphere.

Apparently they think I'm picking things up very quickly - went from zero through to understanding the secondary effects of the flight controls and it all sunk in Just gotta work on my taxiing hehe

Thanks again to all of you who took the time to give your opinions
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Old 22nd May 2010, 08:31
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Just to let you all know - I had my 1st lesson with the Anglian Air School at Norwich Airport on Monday and it was amazing! Great people and very friendly atmosphere.

Apparently they think I'm picking things up very quickly - went from zero through to understanding the secondary effects of the flight controls and it all sunk in Just gotta work on my taxiing hehe
I'm literally in the office next door pop in and say hello next time you're in.

David
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Old 3rd Jun 2010, 18:41
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PS Small B I presume that is Small Boy?


Freon1978, yes it is. Is that Dave Holligwurth? I thought you would be with an airline by now, last time we talked you were putting in lots of applications. I will drop in and see you this week.

Your website says you are a family run business, I didn't know Brian was your Dad
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Old 3rd Jun 2010, 20:56
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FAO Freon1978

Hi David,

Thanks for the invite, I'll pop over when I can
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Old 3rd May 2021, 16:34
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Originally Posted by freon1978 View Post
Brian says he hasn't been in contact for a very long time and isn't sure whats he's up to now.

Also he remembered your name and said to say that he hopes you are well and still flying.

David
this is a reply 11 years late… My apologies… Great that Brian remembered me! I went in to get my imc and multi rating and owned a Seneca IV reg GMAIK although i stopped flying years ago… never found Ed Chapman unfortunately…
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