CAA to allow Flight Training from Unlicensed Aerodromes
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What's wrong with my landings?
I suspect the reason we so often seem to come to blows is your apparant inability to detect humour.
There is nothing wrong with your landings - In typical pilot fashion we gain a little bit of fun from pulling each others legs. In your case, yours seems to have come off in my hand.
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back on subject....
that shows how much they know....
In Germany ALL airfields are certified, even small glider fields and UL fields! They all must of some fire equipment readily available at all times. The fields are usually PPR only, though some do have published opening hours.
Training is available at any of those fields as long as the type of aircraft is certified for it. For example, at a purely glider airfield, no training is allowed there with a Cessna or similar single-engine (just power gliders and MAYBE UL's). So, if it's not certified for the aircraft type, then you could consider it un-certified and thus NO TRAING allowed in that type.
But, there is NO yearly fee to the German CAA! The only fee is when they come to inspect, and perhaps a penalty fee if they don't meet inspection. Other then that.... no cost to the authorities!
As to Canada being less restricted.... well, you have a lot more free space up there! It gets a bit cramped in Europe.
Westy
The CAA have admitted that the UK is the only European nation to require a licensed airfield for training
In Germany ALL airfields are certified, even small glider fields and UL fields! They all must of some fire equipment readily available at all times. The fields are usually PPR only, though some do have published opening hours.
Training is available at any of those fields as long as the type of aircraft is certified for it. For example, at a purely glider airfield, no training is allowed there with a Cessna or similar single-engine (just power gliders and MAYBE UL's). So, if it's not certified for the aircraft type, then you could consider it un-certified and thus NO TRAING allowed in that type.
But, there is NO yearly fee to the German CAA! The only fee is when they come to inspect, and perhaps a penalty fee if they don't meet inspection. Other then that.... no cost to the authorities!
As to Canada being less restricted.... well, you have a lot more free space up there! It gets a bit cramped in Europe.
Westy
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Just spent the last hour catching up on this thread....beats reading the telegraph today....some great reading especiall "Mad-Jock" at his best 
..........this really brings the true spirit of flying back.......thats all I want to do......not interested in flying in the dark or the driech pishy weather that Scotland often has to offer.....all I want is cheap flying,in nice clear air and to go out there and have some fun.........just like flying my B4 glider some 20 odd years ago.........this new regulation will hopefully help me achieve that again!!......
..........this really brings the true spirit of flying back.......thats all I want to do......not interested in flying in the dark or the driech pishy weather that Scotland often has to offer.....all I want is cheap flying,in nice clear air and to go out there and have some fun.........just like flying my B4 glider some 20 odd years ago.........this new regulation will hopefully help me achieve that again!!......
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As to Canada being less restricted.... well, you have a lot more free space up there! It gets a bit cramped in Europe. 
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Land Owner's Permission Required For Take Off And Landing
Slightly off topic I know, but having trawled the ANO I cannot find where it is written that an aircraft may only take off and/or land with the landowners' prior permission.
Help please anyone?
Help please anyone?
ANO will change with affect from 14th April.
ATSIN 178: Notification of Amendment to the Air Navigation Order (ANO) 2009 | Publications | CAA
ATSIN 178: Notification of Amendment to the Air Navigation Order (ANO) 2009 | Publications | CAA
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Licensing vs Certification. Ah!, a very British difference
In broad brush terms I don't see much to choose between the two words - both suggest obtaining an official bit of paper in order to be allowed to do, or hold something.
Firearms certificate, dog licence, Pilot's licence, MOT Certificate.
But it does seem to trouble the CAA, who have long debated (en mass) the semantics surrounding this. Hence, they are able to make claims about 'licensed for flying training...' without worrying about those that respond thinking the word certificated is the same.
Wonder what Dave's lot and Nick's boss Vince think about it all?
Sir George Cayley
In broad brush terms I don't see much to choose between the two words - both suggest obtaining an official bit of paper in order to be allowed to do, or hold something.
Firearms certificate, dog licence, Pilot's licence, MOT Certificate.
But it does seem to trouble the CAA, who have long debated (en mass) the semantics surrounding this. Hence, they are able to make claims about 'licensed for flying training...' without worrying about those that respond thinking the word certificated is the same.
Wonder what Dave's lot and Nick's boss Vince think about it all?
Sir George Cayley
