Flying over Lake District
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just enjoy the views and turn the radio off.
No the Lakes is the exact sort of terrain like the Highlands of Scotland that if I fly around at lowish levels I like to let ATC know I am there..........thankfully I normally spend my time in the office above F350 but when I take a busmans holiday and with a single Lycoming on the front yes the nice guys at Scottish are a sweet sound in my ears....keep up the good work.
If you are worried about having your wreckage found, try a "spot" or PLB. They are much more effective and you dont have to listen to them. Im suprised people would fly in rugged areas of poor reception without one. They are so cheap now and you can even send a text to say you have crashed and are ok. Your loved ones can even monitor your progress on the pc at home, but is that a good thing? Another good idea is to leave your mobile phone switched on as the cell phone co can trace your possition quite quickly.
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ps tarnish26, do you wear a parachute?
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ps tarnish26, do you wear a parachute?
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If you are worried about having your wreckage found, try a "spot" or PLB.
you can even send a text to say you have crashed and are ok.
ps tarnish26, do you wear a parachute?
BADBEAR.......Thanks for your fine advise but I will still chose to talk to the cheery guys at Scottish in the hope one day they may save my life ..
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LOL. Badbear and Tarnish of course are both right - for what they want out of their flying. Don't fall out over it though chaps! Personally, I have to admit I'm in tarnish's camp. A while back, I heard a mayday from a SEP going down in a pretty remote area and, being nearby, was able to get over the scene, watch them safely down and coordinate with ATC. My radio was always tuned in before, but after this it certainly always will be!
But I don't switch my phone on when flying, nor do I have a parachute (don't think a cessna with a strut has ever broken up?). Still, each to his own - within the regs of course!
But I don't switch my phone on when flying, nor do I have a parachute (don't think a cessna with a strut has ever broken up?). Still, each to his own - within the regs of course!
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Yes it’s definitely worth speaking to someone there is no doubt about it but its just a shame Scottish Information don't have better RT coverage of the Lake District area.
I think it would be good if it went official and was published in the AIP as then people would know who to talk to when flying over lakes instead of 5 different aircraft in the area talking to 5 different ATC units.
I think it would be good if it went official and was published in the AIP as then people would know who to talk to when flying over lakes instead of 5 different aircraft in the area talking to 5 different ATC units.
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Scottish Information
Mark & Others,
I have just recently joined PPrune but I noticed this thread regarding who to speak to when flying over the lovely Cumbrian hills.
In my case, I do occasionally venture up to the likes of Oban, Cumbernauld, and Dundee or fly over the Lake District on a jolly.
When I leave either the Blackpool or Warton frequencies heading north I tend to call Scottish Information on 119.875 who I can normally receive good & clear above say 3000 feet.
I was flying around the Lakes a couple of weeks ago and I tuned into both Scottish 119.875 & London 125.475 and I definitely found London was a much clearer signal than Scottish but that is probably due to the transmitter locations they use. That was at approx 2000 feet.
Overall though I would rather work Scottish Info over the Lake District hills as they give a much better service than London and London's frequencies are very busy and congested.
With the regards to the AIP maybe the area coverage will change at some point so that Scottish FIS covers this section of Class G Airspace across the picturess Cumbria rather than London FIS.
P.S Stunning views in Cumbria when snow was around.
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I have just recently joined PPrune but I noticed this thread regarding who to speak to when flying over the lovely Cumbrian hills.
In my case, I do occasionally venture up to the likes of Oban, Cumbernauld, and Dundee or fly over the Lake District on a jolly.
When I leave either the Blackpool or Warton frequencies heading north I tend to call Scottish Information on 119.875 who I can normally receive good & clear above say 3000 feet.
I was flying around the Lakes a couple of weeks ago and I tuned into both Scottish 119.875 & London 125.475 and I definitely found London was a much clearer signal than Scottish but that is probably due to the transmitter locations they use. That was at approx 2000 feet.
Overall though I would rather work Scottish Info over the Lake District hills as they give a much better service than London and London's frequencies are very busy and congested.
With the regards to the AIP maybe the area coverage will change at some point so that Scottish FIS covers this section of Class G Airspace across the picturess Cumbria rather than London FIS.
P.S Stunning views in Cumbria when snow was around.
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We quite often head north over the lakes to Carlisle or further up and use Warton initially, Blackpool if requested to, and then Scottish. Height is the key, here, and we usually would be at at least 3,500 or higher over the lakes, for several reasons. Better comms, better view, above most of the other traffic and more time to think if the donk stops....
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Height is the key, here, and we usually would be at at least 3,500 or higher over the lakes, for several reasons. Better comms, better view, above most of the other traffic and more time to think if the donk stops....
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I have just heard today that the CAA's DAP ( Directorate of Airspace policy ) have shown an interest after the various post's on this forum. I can only guess soon then something more official will be done about the confusion that exist's at this present time..........One thing though for sure please if flying over hostile terrain like the Lakes I would suggest you at the very least talk to someone!!....Safe flying to you all. 
Guess DAP will mandate ELTs for powered planes in designated remote areas. Given that the only flat places to crash in some areas are lakes mandating lifejackets might be a good idea too.
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Hi Halfbaked_Boy / 2high2fastagain,
Just noticed your post about Carlisle.
At Carlisle we usually pass traffic to Durham Radar when heading south east normally at VRP Alston, if you are flying the Penrith way and then more towards Warcop you will be usually passed to London Information initially. Likewise with London if your heading over lakes or via M6.
All South Westbound traffic from Carlisle routing down the Cumbrian coast towards EGNH/EGNS normally goes to Scottish Information who give a good service in that area and have good RT coverage.
When you get down as far as Windermere / Kendal area Blackpool Radar or Warton Radar can give you a service (sometimes a radar service too).
All the best!
Steve
Just noticed your post about Carlisle.
At Carlisle we usually pass traffic to Durham Radar when heading south east normally at VRP Alston, if you are flying the Penrith way and then more towards Warcop you will be usually passed to London Information initially. Likewise with London if your heading over lakes or via M6.
All South Westbound traffic from Carlisle routing down the Cumbrian coast towards EGNH/EGNS normally goes to Scottish Information who give a good service in that area and have good RT coverage.
When you get down as far as Windermere / Kendal area Blackpool Radar or Warton Radar can give you a service (sometimes a radar service too).
All the best!
Steve
