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Before the forum police get going I have done the usual search and found the information very informative. You may also note the total number of posts I have made verus the time I have been a member here. Reason it is so low is because I don't generally post as most of the information is readily available if you can just be bothered to look in the right places and do more than one search. I don't normally contribute to the topics as I don't feel I am not 'quite there yet' - though I have learned enough from just reading.
Now to get on topic. I am doing my Air Law exam tomorrow afternoon, I am going to sit down with my pen, paper, PPL confuser & Trevor Thom and hope to make a dent.
I am wondering if anybody has any tips to prepare or perhaps can shed light on particular questions which appear more than once. i.e. I have a feeling that there may only be two or three on the Chicago Convention but maybe 10 on Airport signals such as white light from tower, or two balls from a mast etc etc. It may well be that more time should be spent on individual areas as more marks are available.
As I understand it the time allowed is 60 minutes for 40 questions with a 75% pass rate being 30 correct answers. If things have changed overnight or just any other tidbits people may have I would be forever grateful.
Also, is a calculator allowed?
Thank you in advance,
Ryan.
Now to get on topic. I am doing my Air Law exam tomorrow afternoon, I am going to sit down with my pen, paper, PPL confuser & Trevor Thom and hope to make a dent.
I am wondering if anybody has any tips to prepare or perhaps can shed light on particular questions which appear more than once. i.e. I have a feeling that there may only be two or three on the Chicago Convention but maybe 10 on Airport signals such as white light from tower, or two balls from a mast etc etc. It may well be that more time should be spent on individual areas as more marks are available.
As I understand it the time allowed is 60 minutes for 40 questions with a 75% pass rate being 30 correct answers. If things have changed overnight or just any other tidbits people may have I would be forever grateful.
Also, is a calculator allowed?
Thank you in advance,
Ryan.
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No calculator allowed.
Have you only started revising tonight?
It's passable with minimal revision if the right questions come up. I got 90% in mine with about 5 days revision. You're right about the number of questions you have to answer, the time you are given and the pass percentage.
I doubt you'll get much out of Trevor Thom at this stage. Others might disagree. If I was in your position I'd be blitzing the confuser until I knew it 100%, then going over the 'non-common sense questions.'
There's no way of saying which questions will appear. I can't remember my questions exactly but the ones I got wrong involved;
1) The role of ATC in SVFR when you're not in a lane.
2) Whether the airplane registration is needed on every flight (it is).
3) The renewal conditions for the PPL.
Get working!
Have you only started revising tonight?
It's passable with minimal revision if the right questions come up. I got 90% in mine with about 5 days revision. You're right about the number of questions you have to answer, the time you are given and the pass percentage.
I doubt you'll get much out of Trevor Thom at this stage. Others might disagree. If I was in your position I'd be blitzing the confuser until I knew it 100%, then going over the 'non-common sense questions.'
There's no way of saying which questions will appear. I can't remember my questions exactly but the ones I got wrong involved;
1) The role of ATC in SVFR when you're not in a lane.
2) Whether the airplane registration is needed on every flight (it is).
3) The renewal conditions for the PPL.
Get working!
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A bit more time?
I think the purpose of the exam is to ensure you know the basics of a detailed subject thoroughly to avoid putting others and of course yourself in danger. The confuser is a fabulous resource if used properly, but learning the subject is not it. Read the books, prerferbaly twice and then try the conufuser...
I spent a few weeks reading the books until I was confident I understood everything and then spent a lot of time at AirQuiz.com where you will find questions that are not in the exam but really test your knowledge and make you comfortable.
Please take time to learn the subject, a bare minimum pass is really not 'cool'.
I spent a few weeks reading the books until I was confident I understood everything and then spent a lot of time at AirQuiz.com where you will find questions that are not in the exam but really test your knowledge and make you comfortable.
Please take time to learn the subject, a bare minimum pass is really not 'cool'.
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Sorry, I should have clarified; I have been studying for just over 2 weeks using a combination of TT Book, Confuser & an OAT Aviation DVD lent to me by the club!
Its just now sinking in that I will actually sit the exam!
Thanks for the replies so for, please keep them coming.
Ryan.
Its just now sinking in that I will actually sit the exam!
Thanks for the replies so for, please keep them coming.
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Ryan. Hate to plug anywhere as everyone's experience will be different but AirQuiz.com really worked for me. I spent a couple of weeks in the books but you'll get questions there which won't be in the exam but really cement your knowledge. If you score 85% plus there then you can feel very confident going into the exam. I didn't touch the confuser until two days before exam day and scored 98%.
My tip would be to read the questions very carefully. The exam won't take anywhere near an hour so read and re-read with an open mind every one before answering. Unfortuneately it seems like the exam is like an old style school test with question designed more to trip you up rather than to figure out what you actually know.
Apologies for my harsh reply earlier, good luck in your exam!
My tip would be to read the questions very carefully. The exam won't take anywhere near an hour so read and re-read with an open mind every one before answering. Unfortuneately it seems like the exam is like an old style school test with question designed more to trip you up rather than to figure out what you actually know.
Apologies for my harsh reply earlier, good luck in your exam!
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Before the forum police get going I have done the usual search and found the information very informative. You may also note the total number of posts I have made verus the time I have been a member here. Reason it is so low is because I don't generally post as most of the information is readily available if you can just be bothered to look in the right places and do more than one search. I don't normally contribute to the topics as I don't feel I am not 'quite there yet' - though I have learned enough from just reading.
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Read the questions slowly and thoroughly,some of the multiple answers are designed to test your knowledge by offering very similar answers that look right but are not.
To make sure you have not been confused,check the questions and your answers twice, and once again before handing in the paper.
Good luck
Lister
To make sure you have not been confused,check the questions and your answers twice, and once again before handing in the paper.
Good luck
Lister
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Well folks, I have done as much as I can so its a quick shower now then off to the airport. A few hours of cramming in the pilots lounge to be had before sitting the exam. Thanks for all the replies!
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The most important advice given to me was RTFQ/RTFA.
Read the f'in question/Read the f'in answers. There were a couple of times when I got questions wrong exam because I misread the questions or answers - they they are known word some of them in a way to catch you out on common mistakes or misunderstandings. Or the correct answer is in months, say, when in all the text books a time limit is given in years.
Read the f'in question/Read the f'in answers. There were a couple of times when I got questions wrong exam because I misread the questions or answers - they they are known word some of them in a way to catch you out on common mistakes or misunderstandings. Or the correct answer is in months, say, when in all the text books a time limit is given in years.
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I passed my air law exam today!
I agreed with what has been said earlier, some of the questions are definately there to trip you up rather than test your knowledge.
Not sure what everyone else thought, but I found that the Jeremy M Pratt book was a lot better than TT's. I'd been using both, but concentrated on Trevor Thom's more as it's fairly shorter and more to the point. I had spent weeks with preparation (Airquiz, etc) but I still failed my first attempt...Then I decided to give JP's book a try and no problems second time around...
I agreed with what has been said earlier, some of the questions are definately there to trip you up rather than test your knowledge.
Not sure what everyone else thought, but I found that the Jeremy M Pratt book was a lot better than TT's. I'd been using both, but concentrated on Trevor Thom's more as it's fairly shorter and more to the point. I had spent weeks with preparation (Airquiz, etc) but I still failed my first attempt...Then I decided to give JP's book a try and no problems second time around...
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Passed today with 87%, not too bad so happy with that. Thanks to all for their constructive responses!! 1800ed, your question type came up so I was savy enough to know that 5 years and 60 months are the same thing!!
Another question which came up was;
An Alert service can be provided if;
a) I cant remember
b) A flight plan is filed at least 24 hours prior to the scheduled departure time.
c) The Aircraft is capable of two way radio communication with ATC
d) The pilot has filed a flight plan, or ATC are aware of the pilot or the aircraft is believed to be the subject of unlawful interference.
(answer order a b c d has been shuffled)
I got the question correct but I am curious of what others think of this?
Another question which came up was;
An Alert service can be provided if;
a) I cant remember
b) A flight plan is filed at least 24 hours prior to the scheduled departure time.
c) The Aircraft is capable of two way radio communication with ATC
d) The pilot has filed a flight plan, or ATC are aware of the pilot or the aircraft is believed to be the subject of unlawful interference.
(answer order a b c d has been shuffled)
I got the question correct but I am curious of what others think of this?
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I would think the answer would be C. An alerting service is implicit in any service that you request from ATC, whether that be Basic or something else.
And to request any kind of service all you need is a functioning radio. You don't need to submit a flight plan or take a hijacker with you.
Having said that, if you phone an airfield ahead of time to announce that you'll be arriving no-radio and would they please call the emergency services if you have not arrived by suchandsuch time, does that count as an "alerting service" as well?
And to request any kind of service all you need is a functioning radio. You don't need to submit a flight plan or take a hijacker with you.
Having said that, if you phone an airfield ahead of time to announce that you'll be arriving no-radio and would they please call the emergency services if you have not arrived by suchandsuch time, does that count as an "alerting service" as well?
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Regardless of the answer, the service is provided to any aircraft that the ATC know about within the FIR's.
It gives assistance to aircraft in distress and notifies the relevant search and rescue units, so you don't need a 2 way radio. Similarly the filing of a flight plan is irrelevant due to the fact it is provided to anyone in the FIR's.
D must be correct.
It gives assistance to aircraft in distress and notifies the relevant search and rescue units, so you don't need a 2 way radio. Similarly the filing of a flight plan is irrelevant due to the fact it is provided to anyone in the FIR's.
D must be correct.
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The correct is indeed d), though I still dispute (and my FI is in agreement) that an alerting service cannot be provided unless two way radio communications is established with ATC.
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Well today's the day of my air law exam for the 2nd time!!
I passed it about 2 years ago then ran out of money for a while. I've recently started flying again but the air law has expired so having to re-sit!
Most of my knowledge has been lost over the months so I'm now ****ting proverbial bricks. had my nose buried in books for the last 2 weeks and feverishly scanning through the confuser this morning.
Will let you know how it goes.
I passed it about 2 years ago then ran out of money for a while. I've recently started flying again but the air law has expired so having to re-sit!
Most of my knowledge has been lost over the months so I'm now ****ting proverbial bricks. had my nose buried in books for the last 2 weeks and feverishly scanning through the confuser this morning.
Will let you know how it goes.
Passed my air law 5 weeks ago 1st time 75%.
Passed Human Performance & responses yesterday first go 85%.
Studying Communications to take soon then onto the Air plane Technical from there.
Good luck to others taking their exams & hope you have success.
Trev
Passed Human Performance & responses yesterday first go 85%.
Studying Communications to take soon then onto the Air plane Technical from there.
Good luck to others taking their exams & hope you have success.
Trev