C172 crash at Humberside yesterday afternoon
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Then we come to the point of the ATC part in all this. We know that ATC give seperation for take off and landings behind heavy aircraft which they suspect may cause wake turbulence problems. The same duty of care should lie with ATC mixing light aircraft and helicopters? surely?
The only other point is keeping speed high in light aircraft and being aware of a possible unexpected shear around Helicopters . I do not understand the fear in carrying 10 to 15kts extra speed in a single aircraft and knocking it off when assured of landing. Speed is your saviour. Yet many pilots seem to fly their 70kts regardless of winds turbulence or other aircraft and dont have enough in hand if it all goes pear shaped.
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Then we come to the point of the ATC part in all this. We know that ATC give seperation for take off and landings behind heavy aircraft which they suspect may cause wake turbulence problems. The same duty of care should lie with ATC mixing light aircraft and helicopters? surely?
The only other point is keeping speed high in light aircraft and being aware of a possible unexpected shear around Helicopters . I do not understand the fear in carrying 10 to 15kts extra speed in a single aircraft and knocking it off when assured of landing. Speed is your saviour. Yet many pilots seem to fly their 70kts regardless of winds turbulence or other aircraft and dont have enough in hand if it all goes pear shaped.
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Then we come to the point of the ATC part in all this. We know that ATC give seperation for take off and landings behind heavy aircraft which they suspect may cause wake turbulence problems. The same duty of care should lie with ATC mixing light aircraft and helicopters? surely?
No it doesn't.
If you are number two to an aircraft (be it helicopter or fixed wing) on final approach, you will always be given the recommended wake turbulance minima and it is the pilots responsibility to ensure that they apply it.
If you are being vectored for an IFR approach the IFR minima is always greater than the wake turbulance minima between aircraft.
The only time it is mandatory for ATC to apply wake turbulance separation within the aerodrome environment is on departure, even then, a wait 2 or 3 minutes seems too much for some pilots, you'd be suprised how many push to go early.
