Flying into Munich
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Flying into Munich
Hi,
Has anyone any experience flying into Munich? Is it possible? I assume it costs the customary arm and leg, anyone got any idea if it is just the one arm and one leg?
What of the alternatives?
I will be flying from UK so need customs airport. The flight will be IFR.
I see Augsburg (EDMA) and Oberfaffenhofen (EDMO). Anyone any experience with these? The AIP lists EDMO as Jet-A1 only, is this correct?
There are 2 very close airfields EDMD and EDNX but these do not seem to appear in the AIP. Does anyone know where I can get info on these? They are almost certainly not customs airports but it may be worth a quick 'Touch and Go' in France for the convenience.
Laughingly I looked at Ryanair flights to 'Munich (MUN)'. The IATA code MUN is actually somewhere in Venezula. I eventually found that they take you to Memmingen (EDJA) approx 60 nm west of Munich.
Anyway, thanks for any help you can offer.
Carl.
Has anyone any experience flying into Munich? Is it possible? I assume it costs the customary arm and leg, anyone got any idea if it is just the one arm and one leg?
What of the alternatives?
I will be flying from UK so need customs airport. The flight will be IFR.
I see Augsburg (EDMA) and Oberfaffenhofen (EDMO). Anyone any experience with these? The AIP lists EDMO as Jet-A1 only, is this correct?
There are 2 very close airfields EDMD and EDNX but these do not seem to appear in the AIP. Does anyone know where I can get info on these? They are almost certainly not customs airports but it may be worth a quick 'Touch and Go' in France for the convenience.
Laughingly I looked at Ryanair flights to 'Munich (MUN)'. The IATA code MUN is actually somewhere in Venezula. I eventually found that they take you to Memmingen (EDJA) approx 60 nm west of Munich.
Anyway, thanks for any help you can offer.
Carl.
I can offer a mix of first- and second-hand info. Please check it before you rely on it.
I think EDDM doesn't allow VFR < 2000 kg. IFR is allowed with PPR, which I've never tried to get.
EDMO doesn't take private flights.
A colleague used Augsburg (EDMA) as an IFR airport for Munich. Public transport from Augsburg into Munich is easy, almost as easy as from EDDM.
I've used Ingolstadt (ETSI) which is a little further north. Easy and accommodating, but not as easy to get into Munich. [Edited to add, actually, the train time looks like 40 mins just like Augsburg, and it was relatively easy to get to the station.]
For VFR, Fürstenfeldbruck (ETSF) and Oberschleissheim (EDNX) are possibilities with reasonable runways, there are other smaller fields around if you can get in and out. EDNX has a limit on the number of annual movements and requires PPR.
I find eddh.de - Landeinformationen useful for planning destinations and stops in Germany.
I think EDDM doesn't allow VFR < 2000 kg. IFR is allowed with PPR, which I've never tried to get.
EDMO doesn't take private flights.
A colleague used Augsburg (EDMA) as an IFR airport for Munich. Public transport from Augsburg into Munich is easy, almost as easy as from EDDM.
I've used Ingolstadt (ETSI) which is a little further north. Easy and accommodating, but not as easy to get into Munich. [Edited to add, actually, the train time looks like 40 mins just like Augsburg, and it was relatively easy to get to the station.]
For VFR, Fürstenfeldbruck (ETSF) and Oberschleissheim (EDNX) are possibilities with reasonable runways, there are other smaller fields around if you can get in and out. EDNX has a limit on the number of annual movements and requires PPR.
I find eddh.de - Landeinformationen useful for planning destinations and stops in Germany.
Being a resident pilot in Munich, my best advice for you would be to catch a scheduled flight. Nowhere else in the civilised world are conditions for GA pilots worse than here. If you absolutely have to, then here's some additional information:
Oberpfaffenhofen (EDMO) is available (also IFR) PPR with a MTOW above 2000 kg, see Willkommen am Sonderflughafen Oberpfaffenhofen
Fürstenfeldbruck is also PPR and VFR only, see FFB Fürstenfeldbruck Flugbetriebsgesellschaft mbH (ETSF) . It may close soon.
Oberschleissheim is PPR and VFR only, see Flugplatz Schleissheim e.V. - Startseite . Very good connections to public transport to downtown Munich (S-Bahn), but they only have a limited number of operations available to non-based aircraft which may have been exhausted by now.
EDMD, Dachau-Gröbenried, is a gliding site with 425m grass and is PPR (and from what I hear it's difficult to get one).
Otherwise, there's Jesenwang (EDMJ), but its 408m narrow runway with a forest at one end is not everybody's cup of tea; see Flug- und Freizeitzentrum Jesenwang.
Erding (ETSE) is military and I think off-limits to civil aircraft other than the ones based there with the military flying club.
Oberpfaffenhofen (EDMO) is available (also IFR) PPR with a MTOW above 2000 kg, see Willkommen am Sonderflughafen Oberpfaffenhofen
Fürstenfeldbruck is also PPR and VFR only, see FFB Fürstenfeldbruck Flugbetriebsgesellschaft mbH (ETSF) . It may close soon.
Oberschleissheim is PPR and VFR only, see Flugplatz Schleissheim e.V. - Startseite . Very good connections to public transport to downtown Munich (S-Bahn), but they only have a limited number of operations available to non-based aircraft which may have been exhausted by now.
EDMD, Dachau-Gröbenried, is a gliding site with 425m grass and is PPR (and from what I hear it's difficult to get one).
Otherwise, there's Jesenwang (EDMJ), but its 408m narrow runway with a forest at one end is not everybody's cup of tea; see Flug- und Freizeitzentrum Jesenwang.
Erding (ETSE) is military and I think off-limits to civil aircraft other than the ones based there with the military flying club.
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IFR to EDDM
I did this in my Mooney Ovation 3 years ago, IFR from Troyes in France.
You will need a slot and some form of noise certificate.
I don't recall it being overly expensive and the GA was priced as one might expect from a big airport with mandatory handling.
There is nowhere else accessible for GA in the area - I looked into this prior to going to the main airport.
You need to call to book a slot and be instrument rated.
SB
You will need a slot and some form of noise certificate.
I don't recall it being overly expensive and the GA was priced as one might expect from a big airport with mandatory handling.
There is nowhere else accessible for GA in the area - I looked into this prior to going to the main airport.
You need to call to book a slot and be instrument rated.
SB
