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Old 1st Sep 2009, 15:38
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Disorientated pilot near Oban!

Hi does anyone know where the lady pilot was from that got into a spot of bother between Mull and Campbelltown yesterday? She was eventually located and led to Prestwick by Rescue 177! Sounds like Scottish along with those Navy lads and anyone else involved did a great job!
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Old 1st Sep 2009, 17:50
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I was helping on the radio a couple of years ago at our local airfield when a young man on his first XC called in with difficulty finding us. Eventually we helped him locate the airfield whereon the CFI who was near ( a 'Top Pilot') took the mike and told him not to bother landing - he had failed and should now go straight back to his home airfield.
Me, I was about to ask him to land and have a cup of tea to settle his nerves!
It takes all sorts, Well done to the people who helped this particular lady.
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I was on Bute yesterday, by ferry & 4 wheels! the wx was definately un-nice. Cloudbase less than 200ft.
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Eventually we helped him locate the airfield whereon the CFI who was near ( a 'Top Pilot') took the mike and told him not to bother landing - he had failed and should now go straight back to his home airfield.
What an incredibly crass thing to say to a student PPL on a cross country, who will already have been anxious and in need of support, not ridicule.
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the CFI who was near ( a 'Top Pilot') took the mike and told him not to bother landing - he had failed and should now go straight back to his home airfield.
Words fail me. Someone behaving like that has no right whatsoever to be an instructor, let alone a CFI.

A student pilot, on first XC, under stress, and he gives the guy a load of grief and upsets him while he's still flying...

Not only crass, stupid, arrogant and insensitive, but also very poor CRM, and thoroughly dangerous as well.

In short, to behave like that one has to be 100% through-and-through W-anker (and stupid with it).
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Aircraft was on a ferry flight from Reykjavik to Prestwick.

Well done to ATC and the Sea King crew who helped her to a safe landing.

Maybe nominees for the CAA Safety Award this year ?
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Well done to all those involved! Glad to hear there was a safe ending.

Was it an SEP? Without wishing to dissect the wherefores, does anyone know the aircraft type and/or pilot experience level? I am always keen to build a picture of the type of aircraft and pilot experience level of those who do GA Iceland - Scotland ferry flights in SEP's as it's been offered up to me in the past and I have politely declined. The only chap I met who brought an SEP over here was barking mad! lol

Thanks,

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From todays Daily Record,

Navy helicopter helps rescue lost pilot - The Daily Record

Reporting it was a 206
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and another report in the Evening Times

Top Guns Save Pilot (from Evening Times)
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American reg C206.....single female pilot ( American) Lost control in IMC around the Great Glen!!!....well done West Coast guys the usual high standard one expects from Scottish and also 809 sqn Prestwick..D
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Maybe nominees for the CAA Safety Award this year
I thought the green keeper in Dundee was up for that.?

Tell you one thing though after having had a wake vortex brown trouser moment behind a seaking (1000ft lower 4 miles behind it crossing) I sure as hell wouldn't want to follow one anywhere. I will go in front just tell me left and right thanks

Glad everything turned out well.

Is it just me or does there seem to be alot more incidents this year than years gone by. Or is it just the same as ever but more are making the papers.
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I know I have lost a few hours in the last few days but looking at the posting time it gives my last post as 0310.....someone please tell me its not that early...if so its off back to bed for me!!
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By the time they reached the woman she was circling around half a mile offshore from Machrihanish on the Mull of Kintyre, having refused to land at the airstrip there - Evening Times

.... but was happy to be guided into Prestwick, with its slightly shorter runway, and given that it was her intended destination.

Well done GANNET SAR!

Jack

PS .... "and also 809 sqn" - if only!
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Used to be 819 Sqn Fisbang, which is where the confusion may arise. It's been HMS Gannet SAR Flight for a while now though.

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Words fail me. Someone behaving like that has no right whatsoever to be an instructor, let alone a CFI.
I agree - on the other hand he would have been right and would have saved the student a landing fee plus additional flight time. Maybe he could just have been a bit more diplomatic (CFIs not known for their diplomacy generally)
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In case anyone is interested, the Royal Navy SAR setup is now :
771 Naval Air Squadron Search and Rescue (SAR), based at RNAS Culdrose with
HMS Gannet SAR Flight Search and Rescue Flight based at Prestwick with 3 S61's

819 Squadron, the previous Prestwick incumbents, disbanded 31 Oct 2001
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S61s ? These are fine products from Westlands. WS-61s
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I'll probably still nominate the folks involved for this years GA Safety Award. Having read the reports, they did a great job, using lots of ATC and GA experience held here at the ATC centre, as well as getting assistance from commercial pilots to guage real time weather and work out where best to vector the aircraft bearing in mind the pilots state of mind and the cumulo granite in the area. I think the nomination process normally opens around this time of year so will be watching out for it.
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