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Old 26th Aug 2009, 18:15
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Airbox nav unit? (and Adventurer Pilot 7000)

Anyone using or had experience with these, what do you think?

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i brought one, before general release, an amazing piece of kit, having used a 296 before, it takes a bit of getting used to, very friendly people, who are both UK pilots so know exactly whats required, from a gps in the UK rather than a lot further west
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I'm keen to hear more opinions on the Airbox, anyone else got one?
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I picked one up a few weeks ago and it had one glitch as it restarted mid flight once, spoke to Airbox who immediately emailed me over an update. Very friendly support team, I highly recommend this product both for ease of use and backroom support team.
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The Foresight looked good. The Clarity less so - I went for an AV80R over the clarity (USB connection for transfer/charging and cheaper updates were what did it for me, but ultimately I prefer the GPS display over the chart as you can better de-clutter it).

IIRC the foresight has no battery so has to be externally powered by a power charger brick/power gorilla, or connected to a 12v in the aircraft.
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what are the main problems with the clarity?
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Battery life is not massive but as unit is so nicely compact thats to be expected. I am pleased with purchase and believe the desk top software will be out in about a month.

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Originally Posted by 122.85
Battery life is not massive but as unit is so nicely compact thats to be expected. I am pleased with purchase and believe the desk top software will be out in about a month.

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A large battery pack would solve the power issues though...
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what are the main problems with the clarity?
For me, lack of USB as mentioned already - the AV80R charges off the USB port which I find really handy.

Also, I usually use 1:250 charts rather than 1:500 as I find them cluttered, so I have the same problem on the Clarity (and I'm not paying 130 quid for the 1:250 on top!). I found the zoom to be ok, there are 9 levels I believe, but not as sharp as the AV80R, and I'd rather have the GPS style view where I can choose what shows and what doesn't at each zoom level rather than see the actual chart. Zooming in on the clutter just shows you more clutter, and zooming out doesn't remove info like the AV80R can obviously as it's a chart.

The AV80R has terrain topo on the map colour coded by height which I also liked, not to mention it doubles as a car sat-nav which the Clarity doesn't. Lastly, the CAA chart updates are more expensive than the database updates for the AV80R.
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The power guerilla units are very expensive. Apart from weight and size what advantage do they have over a sealed lead acid type battery? Do they last any longer than say a 7ah SLA? What types of external power source do others use as back up to internal batteries or where there is no power in the aircraft ?
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Just to clarify, the Clarity DOES charge off a USB like the AV8OR, a single 1:250,000 chart costs just £25 (the full set of 8 is £125) and these come with airspace and airfield data included.

The Clarity's screen resolution is 800 x 480 pixels versus the AV8OR's 480 x 272 pixels.

Airbox will, in the near future, be adding a terrrain topo overlay which can be switched in favour of chart if the user wishes by choosing the appropriate option in the menu.

The Airbox Fast Plan desktop utility is nearing completion and this will enable full desktop flightplanning and the transfer of routes between PC and an Airbox unit. It will also check online automatically for the latest airspace, chart and software updates and download those accordingly.
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HI

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I’m jest a low hour PPl without a great deal of experience with GPS systems; I had a good look around before making my mind up, Id flown with friends who had a fly angle and I brought back a TB20 from Egypt with one of the bendix king systems in it.

I went for the foresight as I jest found it so simple to use, There’s a lot of little things that jest made it right for me, I don’t believe that I’ll ever find one GPS that ticks all the boxes that I wanted but the foresight ticked the most. From a large easy to read touch screen to the way I can alter the info to display what I want at that time weather that’s my relative position to towns or to airfields or eta to next waypoint or destination. The more IV used it the more I’m pleased with the choice I made. Id highly recommend one but like all things some careful thought is needed before parting with your hard earned.
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"Bringing a TB20 back from Egypt" is a not inconsiderable achievement for a low hours PPL.
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Sorry re reading that its missleading...Right hand seat, jest there to make to make uo the numbers and play with the buttons.
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"jest" ?

Tell me your just jesting ... ?
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how does this compare to the cheaper Airbox unit? Im not really interested in using it in the car but want the best unit for flying.

Adventurer Pilot 7000 7" Touchscreen GPS @ Flightstore Pilot Supplies
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"jest" ?

Tell me your just jesting ... ?
He is quite posh really, thinks a Crèche is a car accident in Knightsbridge!..
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Old 22nd Oct 2009, 16:59
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I am amazed people spend this much money on a box which as far as I can tell doesn't do anything outside the UK.
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Old 22nd Oct 2009, 17:10
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IO I expect that you either can or will be able to get Jep charts for europe. That was and is the position with flymap, though I am not certain whether they still support the Fly Angel I bought at some expense two years ago. That unit has quite long battery life and is also quite small. It straps to my leg in the Chipmunk, which is convenient when there is nowhere else to put it!

As a back up unit I would look for long battery life but ideally any unit should IMHO have the ability to download NavBox flight plans to it, which you cannot do with Flymap, Airbox or indeed the AV80R, which I was also looking at recently. All these need bespoke PC software, which is not as good as NavBox (well ceretainly the flymap one is not!) and means using two pieces of software to plan flights. This steers you towards something like the Garmin 495 or 295, which are a good bit bigger.
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Old 22nd Oct 2009, 21:55
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i'm pretty sure that Euro charts are available for the Airbox, it was certainly mentioned when i picked mine up
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