Is a session at the BA Flight Sim at LHR worth it?
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Is a session at the BA Flight Sim at LHR worth it?
I noticed that BA training facility at LHR is offering experiences in their 737flight sim for half price at the moment. Given that this would be purely for fun (never going to go commercial and only have a low hours PPL) but have the time to do this in September, has anyone done this as a PPL and, if so, did you think it worth the money?
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£200 per hour - Flight Training at British Airways
Most of the flying magazines at the moment are carrying an appeal for volunteers to fly the sim just north of there at Brunel University for a couple of hours as part of some flight safety research. A lot cheaper, and you might help make flying a bit safer?
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Depends on how many spare £200's you have.
You will enjoy it undoubtedly, but will you get as much benefit as you would from an hour of aerobatics training or an hour in a complex aeroplane?
You will enjoy it undoubtedly, but will you get as much benefit as you would from an hour of aerobatics training or an hour in a complex aeroplane?
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£200 to sit inside a fake aircraft in a big shed, or £195 to fly in a real aircraft outside in the fresh air?
Let me think about that....
Let me think about that....
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I had a ball when I flew the BA 777 sim - round NY harbour under the bridges, for a start... plus operating the instructor station so my BA friends had traffic and thunderstorms all over the place. But then I wasn't paying - I think I'd have thought twice about £600 for the 3-hour session...
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I'm sure it's expensive to run; it just doesn't actually go anywhere.
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Not really. You have to look at the whole Ultimate High package that is bundles into those 35 minutes as a package. Having being the recipient of an Ultimate High day I can assure you it would be worth the money and I have access to a chippy for £80 an hour at home.
Don't be so quick to assume something is a ripoff.
I am nothing to do with UH, just a very satisfied past customer.
Don't be so quick to assume something is a ripoff.
I am nothing to do with UH, just a very satisfied past customer.
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Points taken everyone - maybe a first aeros sortie would be a better way to spend the cash and improve my flying.
Genghis - thanks for the pointer - sounds of interest. Do you have any more specific reference? Cannot find it in the couple of recent mags have just checked but may just be being dense...
Genghis - thanks for the pointer - sounds of interest. Do you have any more specific reference? Cannot find it in the couple of recent mags have just checked but may just be being dense...
Points taken everyone - maybe a first aeros sortie would be a better way to spend the cash and improve my flying.
Genghis - thanks for the pointer - sounds of interest. Do you have any more specific reference? Cannot find it in the couple of recent mags have just checked but may just be being dense...
Genghis - thanks for the pointer - sounds of interest. Do you have any more specific reference? Cannot find it in the couple of recent mags have just checked but may just be being dense...
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Or........Fly the dual control P51 Mustang, Stallion 51 offers orientation flights, checkout training, flight training, pilot training, air shows, aircraft management
That would be awesome...... sadly, one can only dream.
That would be awesome...... sadly, one can only dream.
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...or you could push the boat out:
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I've had a go in two sims including BA's 777 and really enjoyed them. The instructors/pilots can adapt the sessions for any skill level.
I think the best format is a longer session with a few friends so you both get to observe and fly.
There's also a big difference in the graphical capabilities of the different models of sims - the older ones don't have good visuals because it's not that important for their main purpose and that can be a bit of a surprise if you are used to PS3.
I think the best format is a longer session with a few friends so you both get to observe and fly.
There's also a big difference in the graphical capabilities of the different models of sims - the older ones don't have good visuals because it's not that important for their main purpose and that can be a bit of a surprise if you are used to PS3.
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Virtual Flight Center
I have never done a full motion sim trip so cannot compare but have a little look at these guys.
Virtual Flight Centre
Located not too far from Gatwick. To sum up;
Old 737-200 of Ryanair's completely stripped out and turned into an NG model.
Visuals are pretty good, using flight sim scenery rather than the somewhat 'basic' visuals you can find in some of the full motion stuff. However, the flight model is not the standard Flight Sim stuff so it's more realistic.
Fixed base but believe me I got 'the leans' on a climbing turn out of LGW as we entered cloud. Motion is not the most important thing.
You fly with a real pilot, my guy was a Monarch 757-300 FO and we enjoyed a 'Monarch minimums' approach into Innsbruck, a trip from East Midlands to LGW, a circuit at LGW via London (I work at LGW so nice to see it from the air once in a while) and a few Greek Island (short runway approaches and a stormy approach to Hong Kong's Kai Tak at night.
Perhaps have a go at BA while it's half price but give these guys a try when the price goes back up!
Virtual Flight Centre
Located not too far from Gatwick. To sum up;
Old 737-200 of Ryanair's completely stripped out and turned into an NG model.
Visuals are pretty good, using flight sim scenery rather than the somewhat 'basic' visuals you can find in some of the full motion stuff. However, the flight model is not the standard Flight Sim stuff so it's more realistic.
Fixed base but believe me I got 'the leans' on a climbing turn out of LGW as we entered cloud. Motion is not the most important thing.
You fly with a real pilot, my guy was a Monarch 757-300 FO and we enjoyed a 'Monarch minimums' approach into Innsbruck, a trip from East Midlands to LGW, a circuit at LGW via London (I work at LGW so nice to see it from the air once in a while) and a few Greek Island (short runway approaches and a stormy approach to Hong Kong's Kai Tak at night.
Perhaps have a go at BA while it's half price but give these guys a try when the price goes back up!
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I've done a couple of hours on the A320 sim at Heathrow and I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Circuits at Heathrow with an engine fire and max dem xwind were especially good fun!
I was there with a friend who is a BA skipper so didn't pay anything like the amount you're talking though.......
You're only young once!
Oh, and by the way, I'd rather pay £195 to UH for 35 mins than pay the BA flying club at Booker £180 for an hour. The contrast in quality of instruction could not be greater.
Circuits at Heathrow with an engine fire and max dem xwind were especially good fun!
I was there with a friend who is a BA skipper so didn't pay anything like the amount you're talking though.......
You're only young once!
Oh, and by the way, I'd rather pay £195 to UH for 35 mins than pay the BA flying club at Booker £180 for an hour. The contrast in quality of instruction could not be greater.