PPL training /SFH in South Africa
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Where to Hour Build in South Africa
Goie More!
Could anybody help me in my quest to find out where I can hour build (i.e. rent a plane) in South Africa. I will be based in George (Garden Route) and would love to find something close to there. I have heard rather bad comments about Cape Flying Services in George (the most convenient location) and loads of good comments about Algoa in Port Elizabeth (not so convenient). Are there any other places such as Mossel Bay or Plettenberg Bay that anyone is aware of?
Secondly, can anyone suggest some places to fly to? I would love to fly along the coast and into the small Karoo perhaps. (Oudtshoorn, Swellendam, Plett, PE, etc.) Does every airport have a run-around car and do they all charge landing fees?
Thirdly, what map should I buy? Can I pick one up in SA or should I pre-order something from Jeppesen for example?
Many thanks for your answers.
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Could anybody help me in my quest to find out where I can hour build (i.e. rent a plane) in South Africa. I will be based in George (Garden Route) and would love to find something close to there. I have heard rather bad comments about Cape Flying Services in George (the most convenient location) and loads of good comments about Algoa in Port Elizabeth (not so convenient). Are there any other places such as Mossel Bay or Plettenberg Bay that anyone is aware of?
Secondly, can anyone suggest some places to fly to? I would love to fly along the coast and into the small Karoo perhaps. (Oudtshoorn, Swellendam, Plett, PE, etc.) Does every airport have a run-around car and do they all charge landing fees?
Thirdly, what map should I buy? Can I pick one up in SA or should I pre-order something from Jeppesen for example?
Many thanks for your answers.
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I did my PPL in George with Cape Flying Services a long time ago.
Fantastic place to fly. In fact so beautiful that one can easily forget where you are and get lost. ( Luckily never happened to me )
Also, Cape Flying Services has had some good press and also some bad press. My experience with them has always been positive and Gerald has always treated me professionally and correctly. I'm sure you are going to hear lots of different things from all kinds of people but in my honest opinion CFS is a good place to train.
I did my multi engine in the PA23 they have now namely ZS-MDL while it was still based in Pretoria rather than in the one they used to have, (ZS- DSC) and that aerie alone is worth the trip down there
Fantastic place to fly. In fact so beautiful that one can easily forget where you are and get lost. ( Luckily never happened to me )
Also, Cape Flying Services has had some good press and also some bad press. My experience with them has always been positive and Gerald has always treated me professionally and correctly. I'm sure you are going to hear lots of different things from all kinds of people but in my honest opinion CFS is a good place to train.
I did my multi engine in the PA23 they have now namely ZS-MDL while it was still based in Pretoria rather than in the one they used to have, (ZS- DSC) and that aerie alone is worth the trip down there
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More 99,
To give you an honest answer I need more information:
1.What type of a/c are you licenced on ?
2.Are you a PPL or CPL?
3.How long wil you be in the RSA?
There is a very active flying club at Oudshoorn and the weather is better than at George,but can become very hot in summer.
All major airports have rent- a- cars
Buy a " AVIMAP" book at any local flying school that contains a full set of 1:1,000,000 maps,frequency charts,flightplans ext.
PM for where you can order this.
To give you an honest answer I need more information:
1.What type of a/c are you licenced on ?
2.Are you a PPL or CPL?
3.How long wil you be in the RSA?
There is a very active flying club at Oudshoorn and the weather is better than at George,but can become very hot in summer.
All major airports have rent- a- cars
Buy a " AVIMAP" book at any local flying school that contains a full set of 1:1,000,000 maps,frequency charts,flightplans ext.
PM for where you can order this.
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Many thanks for your replies this far. Bendix, I tried to PM you but it may also be down? Here is some more info to some of the issues raised.
I have a PPL (just in the process of completing this). I am doing this on a Piper Warrior but the flight school also has the C172 which I will fly in as it will give me more options when I come to SA. I will be in SA for 3 weeks and hope to fly in two of these.
I think it would be great if I could make use of the aeroplanes in George and fly to Oudtshoorn, Plett, PE and back, perhaps go over Bavianskloof and some of Route 69. Any suggestions will be welcomed!
The AviMap sounds like a good investment too, any idea how much they go for?
Thanks
99
I have a PPL (just in the process of completing this). I am doing this on a Piper Warrior but the flight school also has the C172 which I will fly in as it will give me more options when I come to SA. I will be in SA for 3 weeks and hope to fly in two of these.
I think it would be great if I could make use of the aeroplanes in George and fly to Oudtshoorn, Plett, PE and back, perhaps go over Bavianskloof and some of Route 69. Any suggestions will be welcomed!
The AviMap sounds like a good investment too, any idea how much they go for?
Thanks
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some of Route 69
You can get fuel at Oudtshoorn, Plett, Swellendam, Beaufort West and Roberston. There is an active flying club at Oudtshoorn - the chap there is Johan Erasmus tel 082 253 9150 email: [email protected]. He runs the show there and is a splendid fellow.
Oh and there is Mossel Bay as well - apparently the flying club there is very active. Also you may from memory get better prices that at George, also you don't have the hassle of controlled airspace.
Edited to make post informative instead of innuendo
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99Luftballons: (renting):
I've pm'd you about avimap and passing SA Air Law when you get there.
One key thing is to make sure the club you are going to use are 'on the ball' as far as getting you in the air and your paperwork through the SA CAA. Go to the wrong club (hasn't been mentioned here yet) and spend all your 3 weeks waiting for paperwork as no preparation has been done, go to another school and you're legal in a day.
One initial question might be 'have you had an UK pilots for validations before?' - if the answer's 'no', be careful they know what to do and are prepared to fast-track you, if the answer is 'yes', ask how long the last one took the club to process. (CFS should be completely on the ball with all this, but if you approach any club that isn't used to UK visitors, make sure you ask the questions in advance).
Also, just make sure you have signed-off time in your log book on any type you intend to rent there - saves a lot of argument - SA is very 'type-conscious'!
I've pm'd you about avimap and passing SA Air Law when you get there.
One key thing is to make sure the club you are going to use are 'on the ball' as far as getting you in the air and your paperwork through the SA CAA. Go to the wrong club (hasn't been mentioned here yet) and spend all your 3 weeks waiting for paperwork as no preparation has been done, go to another school and you're legal in a day.
One initial question might be 'have you had an UK pilots for validations before?' - if the answer's 'no', be careful they know what to do and are prepared to fast-track you, if the answer is 'yes', ask how long the last one took the club to process. (CFS should be completely on the ball with all this, but if you approach any club that isn't used to UK visitors, make sure you ask the questions in advance).
Also, just make sure you have signed-off time in your log book on any type you intend to rent there - saves a lot of argument - SA is very 'type-conscious'!
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Tiger Moth in South Africa
Anyone know if there is a tiger Moth available for hire in South Africa. An instructor would also be required of course for the initial check ride.
Thanks
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Several I believe.
I remember one around the Jo'burg/Pretoria area a few years ago.
Most have tailwheels in place of skids to cope with harder ground.
Try posting on the Africa forum, you may get more response.
I remember one around the Jo'burg/Pretoria area a few years ago.
Most have tailwheels in place of skids to cope with harder ground.
Try posting on the Africa forum, you may get more response.
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Anywhere in South Africa?!
It's a big place.
A friend tells me Cape Town Flight Training Centre used to offer Tiger Moth trial lessons/conversion courses.
He doesn't know if they still do but you could check.
FL
Anyone know if there is a tiger Moth available for hire in South Africa
It's a big place.
A friend tells me Cape Town Flight Training Centre used to offer Tiger Moth trial lessons/conversion courses.
He doesn't know if they still do but you could check.
FL
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Feedback on Algoa FC Port Elizabeth, SA
Hi All,
I'm looking for some recent feedback on Algoa FC in South Africa. Hoping to do my PPL there later this year. Would be grateful for any feedback that you can give from anyone that's trained there.
Thanks
normb.
I'm looking for some recent feedback on Algoa FC in South Africa. Hoping to do my PPL there later this year. Would be grateful for any feedback that you can give from anyone that's trained there.
Thanks
normb.
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Fantastic people - instructors - members - food - and delightful
location - you will succeed and enjoy!
don't leave it to near to christmas - i had 50knt crosswinds
but had a wonderful time and learnt a lot even though i did not complete
but i went to hour build and see if i really wanted to learn
came away with YES i do!
bit delayed - lifes rich pattern and all that!
but will
location - you will succeed and enjoy!
don't leave it to near to christmas - i had 50knt crosswinds
but had a wonderful time and learnt a lot even though i did not complete
but i went to hour build and see if i really wanted to learn
came away with YES i do!
bit delayed - lifes rich pattern and all that!
but will
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Algoa is a great place to learn. I did my PPL there last March/April. Due to my own stupidity I got my days muddled up and had less time there than I thought. Still the team pulled together and I passed from start to finish in 19 days (although I would recommend taking a little longer than this !!! 
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I went back in December, called them on the Thursday and was there on the Monday morning and banged out 9.9 hours in the 2 days I was there for.
They will really help you to get completed in the time you have. it is also a very friendly and relaxed place to learn too and you will meet people from all over the place in the "Gremlin's Grotto" at the end of the flying day.
I'm going back down in March to do my renewal and add a night rating.
It's a great club, I love going there. All the a/c have now been refurbished too and are like new inside and out.
The weather in PE in March/April is very similar to what you get in the UK in summer, and it's good for learning the X-wind landings too. Also the fact that you are learning at a "Real" airport with scheduled traffic helps you get used to flying with the big boys from the start.
I have some pics in this thread from my trip in December :-
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=207786
)I went back in December, called them on the Thursday and was there on the Monday morning and banged out 9.9 hours in the 2 days I was there for.
They will really help you to get completed in the time you have. it is also a very friendly and relaxed place to learn too and you will meet people from all over the place in the "Gremlin's Grotto" at the end of the flying day.
I'm going back down in March to do my renewal and add a night rating.
It's a great club, I love going there. All the a/c have now been refurbished too and are like new inside and out.
The weather in PE in March/April is very similar to what you get in the UK in summer, and it's good for learning the X-wind landings too. Also the fact that you are learning at a "Real" airport with scheduled traffic helps you get used to flying with the big boys from the start.
I have some pics in this thread from my trip in December :-
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=207786
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license expired - catch up on hours in south africa?
Hi
My license expired 10 April 2005, as I didn't get enough hours in the second year, and didn't revalidate [foolishly thinking that starting my own business would lead to more free time and money for flying!].
Anyway, I'm desperate to get it back again, and am visiting South Africa (Cape Town) where I'll have some time on my hands for a week or so....
Any advice on whether I can fly there under training to try and get my license back would be much appreciated. Can I get the required signatures there, or would I need to come back to the UK to get it? Would I need a VISA? Any flight schools to recommend in Cape Town?
Also, as it's lapsed does anyone know if I need to take any exams again or a flight test?
Thanks for any advice, and apologies if this has been covered before.
My license expired 10 April 2005, as I didn't get enough hours in the second year, and didn't revalidate [foolishly thinking that starting my own business would lead to more free time and money for flying!].
Anyway, I'm desperate to get it back again, and am visiting South Africa (Cape Town) where I'll have some time on my hands for a week or so....
Any advice on whether I can fly there under training to try and get my license back would be much appreciated. Can I get the required signatures there, or would I need to come back to the UK to get it? Would I need a VISA? Any flight schools to recommend in Cape Town?
Also, as it's lapsed does anyone know if I need to take any exams again or a flight test?
Thanks for any advice, and apologies if this has been covered before.
Your licence probably didn't expire, but your aircraft rating did! All you need to renew it is a Skill Test, which takes about 1 hour, but you may need a couple of hours practice before hand. You will probably not find any JAA examiners in SA, so it would make sense to renew before you go then do some flying with you valid license when you get there.
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I flew with http://www.ghfc.org.za/index.htm last year and will do again in Feb next year. Old a/c but they appear to be a OK people. Not a JAR organisation though so probably only good for a "brush up".
Be sure to do the circuit of Table Mountain and the Cape of Good Hope (about an hour), the scenery is stunning.
Be sure to do the circuit of Table Mountain and the Cape of Good Hope (about an hour), the scenery is stunning.