Flight Denham - La Touque HELP!!!
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Now I was always willing to talk to you out to mid channel and put you straight to Le Touquet Tower, but they may not do that nowadays 'cos although they'll only be able to provide basic service after LYD, at least you'll be identified, something London Info and Lydd Approach can't do so if (perish the thought) something goes wrong over water, assistance can get to you much quicker.
Denham will want you to fill in a GAR form. You can find a blank one in Word format here.
A Word copy can be found here.
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if your not going to contribute
Yes, GAR not required for France. But you need to send the same form to customs NCU (email on the form) 4 hrs before arrival back. I normally just email the GAR to SB/NCU at the same time 12hrs before to CMA !
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Get a life, if your not going to contribute to this then go spout your opinions elsewhere!!
Is courtesy such a rarity these days that speling and grammer
(and politeness) is lost upon the youth of today?
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I see that Customs haven't stopped there, and that there's now an even newer version on their web site here which just seems to have added a 'Nationality' column.
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You might find that all he did was press the "t" with insufficient force on his keyboard for it to register.
But if we are going to talk grammar.....
Why is Le Touquet a "them" when you call "them" up? My question should properly read "Why are Le Touquet a them....." according to you?
What do you mean that 23-year-olds once went to school? Do you mean when they were still only 16 years old? I am over 40 years old and I too once went to school.
Why do you use the exclamation mark when making your comment about adults who once went to school? Is that so unusual?
What do you mean by "23-year-olds in my day....."? What exactly is your day, and shouldn't you release them from it?
And why are spelling mistakes discourteous?
You might find that all he did was press the "t" with insufficient force on his keyboard for it to register.
But if we are going to talk grammar.....
Why is Le Touquet a "them" when you call "them" up? My question should properly read "Why are Le Touquet a them....." according to you?
What do you mean that 23-year-olds once went to school? Do you mean when they were still only 16 years old? I am over 40 years old and I too once went to school.
Why do you use the exclamation mark when making your comment about adults who once went to school? Is that so unusual?
What do you mean by "23-year-olds in my day....."? What exactly is your day, and shouldn't you release them from it?
And why are spelling mistakes discourteous?
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Thanks for that Fly Stimulator. No sooner does somebody produce a Word version and they go and change it!
I've updated the Word document you provided a link to so that it includes the new column and put it online here.
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I did my first proper channel crossing last weekend (with me as sole pilot in the aircraft, and no help from anyone else)
I agree with DVR - Cap Gris Nez, as it keeps you to a minimum over water. The route for the flight plan I used was
DCT DVR DCT 5100N00130E DCT 5052N00135E DCT
as points such as "Cap-Gris-Nez" are no longer accepted. Also, it gives the FIR boundary crossing point. If its good weather, cross at FL055 as it minimises the time out of gliding range for land, plus the views much better !
Personally, I spoke to Manston Radar all the way to the FIR boundary, and then called Le Touquet Tower, AFAIK Lille Info don't really give a toss about VFR traffic going to LFAT. On the return journey, I also called Manston after leaving LFAT zone, and told them I was keeping a listening watch on their frequency until I passed the FIR boundary - again, because Lille really don't seem to care.
Good luck, and enjoy it.
I agree with DVR - Cap Gris Nez, as it keeps you to a minimum over water. The route for the flight plan I used was
DCT DVR DCT 5100N00130E DCT 5052N00135E DCT
as points such as "Cap-Gris-Nez" are no longer accepted. Also, it gives the FIR boundary crossing point. If its good weather, cross at FL055 as it minimises the time out of gliding range for land, plus the views much better !
Personally, I spoke to Manston Radar all the way to the FIR boundary, and then called Le Touquet Tower, AFAIK Lille Info don't really give a toss about VFR traffic going to LFAT. On the return journey, I also called Manston after leaving LFAT zone, and told them I was keeping a listening watch on their frequency until I passed the FIR boundary - again, because Lille really don't seem to care.
Good luck, and enjoy it.
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Hi OwnNav - no criticism intended, it just struck me as a coincidence that you posted a track log that happened to be one of mine! I deliberately made it publically available on the goFLYING site, so there's no question of nicking!
For those who don't know the site, anybody can upload their track logs and then choose whether to keep them private or make them public. Any embarrassments can be kept private!
The full list of ones people have chosen to make public is at www.goflying.org/nav/tracklog/public_tracklogs.htm
It makes for quite interesting browsing, especially if you use the Google Earth option to view them in 3D.
For those who don't know the site, anybody can upload their track logs and then choose whether to keep them private or make them public. Any embarrassments can be kept private!
The full list of ones people have chosen to make public is at www.goflying.org/nav/tracklog/public_tracklogs.htm
It makes for quite interesting browsing, especially if you use the Google Earth option to view them in 3D.
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I would like to say in response to an earlier coment about radar units being able to help downed aircraft quicker, that an aircraft that departed Lydd a few months ago Suffered an engine failure. He wasn't very high and he had to dump his aircraft in the sea. Within 15 minutes there 2 aircraft on the scene and in 20 he was out of the water.
Worth taking note of the shipping lanes if it is your first time. It is interesting to see the line of ships going into the North sea on the UK side and the line Atlantic bound on the French side. Distinct lanes, distinct directions.
The route for the flight plan I used was
DCT DVR DCT 5100N00130E DCT 5052N00135E DCT
as points such as "Cap-Gris-Nez" are no longer accepted.
DCT DVR DCT 5100N00130E DCT 5052N00135E DCT
as points such as "Cap-Gris-Nez" are no longer accepted.
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Hi OwnNav - no criticism intended, it just struck me as a coincidence that you posted a track log that happened to be one of mine! I deliberately made it publically available on the goFLYING site, so there's no question of nicking!
For those who don't know the site, anybody can upload their track logs and then choose whether to keep them private or make them public. Any embarrassments can be kept private!
The full list of ones people have chosen to make public is at www.goflying.org/nav/tracklog/public_tracklogs.htm
It makes for quite interesting browsing, especially if you use the Google Earth option to view them in 3D.
For those who don't know the site, anybody can upload their track logs and then choose whether to keep them private or make them public. Any embarrassments can be kept private!
The full list of ones people have chosen to make public is at www.goflying.org/nav/tracklog/public_tracklogs.htm
It makes for quite interesting browsing, especially if you use the Google Earth option to view them in 3D.
Last edited by liam548; 27th Aug 2009 at 14:09.
