61.75 without going to US
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training by a sub-Icao IR instructor doesn't count as dual training towards an FAA IR
And doing one's IMCR with an IR holding instructor meets the strictest possible interpretation of the FARs re "authorised instuctor" and the other stuff (haven't got the FAR/AIM to hand) authorising training outside the USA.
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I think that is the key...
If one wants to use any flight instruction carried out towards the IMCr for the FAA IR then to be safe they should use a JAA FI who holds an IR and is authorised to teach the JAA IR (or only count that time towards the FI time) - so in otherwords if you used a JAA IRI then the FAA would not complain - I have no doubt about this.
What TH is complaining about is people who have done their training with a NON-IR'd non IRI JAA instructor. I can see his point that the FAA may complain about this - the instructor was not authorised to teach for an IR.
However to say that "IMC time doesn't count" is simply wrong because any time spent under the hood counts towards the total instrument time, it may not count towards the "Instructor time" but that is a different matter.
Realistically most people going to the USA will need 15 hrs or so with an FAA CFII to get up to scratch and meet the other requirements (like cross country flight "under ATC controlled routing")......
If one wants to use any flight instruction carried out towards the IMCr for the FAA IR then to be safe they should use a JAA FI who holds an IR and is authorised to teach the JAA IR (or only count that time towards the FI time) - so in otherwords if you used a JAA IRI then the FAA would not complain - I have no doubt about this.
What TH is complaining about is people who have done their training with a NON-IR'd non IRI JAA instructor. I can see his point that the FAA may complain about this - the instructor was not authorised to teach for an IR.
However to say that "IMC time doesn't count" is simply wrong because any time spent under the hood counts towards the total instrument time, it may not count towards the "Instructor time" but that is a different matter.
Realistically most people going to the USA will need 15 hrs or so with an FAA CFII to get up to scratch and meet the other requirements (like cross country flight "under ATC controlled routing")......
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With regards to the 15 hours instruction, dont forget that is 15hrs total. So if you have any previous IR instruction, say as part of your FAA PPL, that can be counted towards the 15hr.
I think Al sums it up for me, once you start getting into the realms of FAA safetys crossing over to JAA IR time is starts getting murky, arguments and confusion. Keep them seperate.
Julian.
I think Al sums it up for me, once you start getting into the realms of FAA safetys crossing over to JAA IR time is starts getting murky, arguments and confusion. Keep them seperate.
Julian.
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How long a wait has one from getting the 61.75 in Europe, to getting the card from the FAA?
A friend has been waiting for maybe six months. Some not funny 'business' going on, it looks like.
A friend has been waiting for maybe six months. Some not funny 'business' going on, it looks like.
Even with a "full" certificate it takes almost 120 days for the plastic certificate to arrive in the mail.
So no stress just a quick phone call to the FAA if you get close to the 120.
If push comes to shove they can fax you another temporary that is good until the plastic arrives.
It's called a "fly by wire" for obvious reasons.
So no stress just a quick phone call to the FAA if you get close to the 120.
If push comes to shove they can fax you another temporary that is good until the plastic arrives.
It's called a "fly by wire" for obvious reasons.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but what's the latest on this, can I still get a 61.75 issued in the UK or do I need to travel?
Is there an option to get it somewhere in mainland Europe if not in the UK?
Is there an option to get it somewhere in mainland Europe if not in the UK?
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Get a £250 flight to NY, have a couple of nights in the Waldorf Astoria, have a good weekend and pick up your airman certificate in person (for free)....and probably still save money.
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You can meet Adam House in the UK - see New York International Field Office (IFO) Designated Pilot Examiners for details.
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How do you find out about the Visiting DPE's such as the visit to Denham?
Do they normally advertise anywhere?
Do they normally advertise anywhere?
Strangled at birth by the FAA and other interests.
Cusco