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Old 4th Apr 2009, 20:21
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Shobdon light aircraft down.

BBC report a light aircraft has crashed near Shobdon airfield.
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Microlight Aircraft Crashes In Herefordshire Killing Two Men | UK News | Sky News
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I fly from Shobdon but am at home at the moment. I do not mean this to sound selfish as it is dreadful for the families of the deceased, but I really hope they aren't two of the people I know .
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Really not been a good year so far for aviation has it!
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BBC link here
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Really not been a good year so far for aviation has it!
People say that every year, and at the end of every year it turns out to be no worse than the year before.
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Originally Posted by englishal
People say that every year, and at the end of every year it turns out to be no worse than the year before.
Good point.
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Terrible news. DX- if it helps, I understand the a/c and pilots involved were not based at Shobdon, but can't elaborate at this stage.
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An interesting paradox; the "picture" isn't narrowed down to save the worries of nearest and dearest while the rest of us, with just the "big picture", worry like buggery!
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Aircraft type?

If anyone has information about the aircraft type Iwould be most grateful to know. Many thanks, bm
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Thank you very much Mariner that's all the information I need and it does help.* Still dreadful for the families involved.
*It was a year to the day that Gary Key, whom I knew from my days as a student at HGFC, flew into Cairn Gorm - the memory of discovering that bit of information is still fresh in my mind.

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I too would be very interested in the aircraft type (PM would be fine).

Thanks,
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A bit more here

BBC NEWS | England | Hereford/Worcs | Two killed in microlight crash

Says they came from Gloucestershire.
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Both deceased from Glos..

...according to BBC news 7th April. Tragedy. bm
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Names now released on BBC.

Mark and Rex were well-known to me, and Mark in particular introduced me to the local flying crowd at Eastbach Spence when we moved to Gloucestershire 2 years back. Great guys, good pilots both and meticulous and careful in their approach to flying. I still can't believe that we've lost them.

RIP
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Aircraft type was an Escapade Jabiru
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DX- There was a FISO on duty at the time of this accident according to the AAIB report.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...LE%2001-10.pdf

I always thought FISO were supposed to keep a lookout for traffic within the ATZ, it seems a tower visitor was more vigilant in this case
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I take issue with this part of the report:

Since this type of geared engine will not continue rotating if power is lost (ie loss of fuel supply or ignition function will cause the unit to cease rotating whilst the aircraft is at any normal flight speed)
That is certainly not the case with my 912ULS powered Pioneer. It windmills readily and requires me to slow to about 40 kts to get it to stop when I'm doing realistic (engine-off) PFL's.
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You actually shut the engine down for a PFL?
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I always thought FISO were supposed to keep a lookout for traffic within the ATZ, it seems a tower visitor was more vigilant in this case
Unfair I think. We have no idea what the FISO workload may have been with radio and other traffic. An aircraft that should have been well above circuit height until crossing the runway centreline would not normally be a a candidate for close observation (the tower at Shobdon is always dead-side and not best positioned for such observation anyway).
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