David Clark Headest, which one?
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David Clark Headest DC H20-10 or DC H10-60, which one?
Hi every one, I am currently doing my PPL (20 hours), I've saved some money for a headset finally and as there are sales I thought it would be the best time to get hold of a pair.
I've been looking at DC H20-10 (£221) and DC H10-60 (£234), could some one recommend which headset I should go for?
I've been looking at DC H20-10 (£221) and DC H10-60 (£234), could some one recommend which headset I should go for?
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I wouldn't advise the H10-60, I have a set and the detachable plug extends down from the ear cup around 2 inches, just long enough so it catches your shoulder whenever you have a good look around. However, they do give good signal to noise ratio and are comfortable for the longer flights.
H10-13.4 seem the common entry level headset. But as the previous post states, if you have access to a decent pilot shop, try them first.
H10-13.4 seem the common entry level headset. But as the previous post states, if you have access to a decent pilot shop, try them first.
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The 10-13.4 is pretty well the defacto standard headset for PPls, and for good reason. It is sturdy, good noise insulation properties, will last for ever and you can get spares for it easily should you ever need to. It is certainly worth not getting anything less than this classic headset. I have never had compatability issues with this headset in any palne, whereas some of the schools headsets that I used to borrow for passengers often had problems.
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Although David Clarkes seem to be 'the standard' name for headsets in GA, I wanted to try a different set. I went for Sennheiser HME100's which are great. I went for these over the DC's due to knowing about Sennheiser's reputation with HiFi Headphones and Earphones.
They are comfy and keep all unwanted noise out, no where near as good as my friends Bose-X headset though - but they are around £700 per set, which is why.
You get what you pay for with any line of headset.
They are comfy and keep all unwanted noise out, no where near as good as my friends Bose-X headset though - but they are around £700 per set, which is why.
You get what you pay for with any line of headset.
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Try ebay. DC's come up regularly and under half price.
In my experience DCs are very robust so you shouldn't have any problems with a second hand set that looks as if it has been looked after.
ZA
In my experience DCs are very robust so you shouldn't have any problems with a second hand set that looks as if it has been looked after.
ZA
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I would not buy David Clarks. I've had 2 sets in the past. They were bought as a student, because "everybody else has them, they must be good". Wrong, wrong and wrong again. Having then tried (and subsequently bought) a Bose-X set I would never touch Clarks again with a bargepole.
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DO NOT restrict yourself to trying DCs. Like quite a few others here I do not like them at all. I find them to be heavy, cumbersome, constantly slipping off my head and with poor external noise insulation. I am fortunate enough to have a Peltor headset on permanent loan with which I am very happy but should I eventually buy my own set I shall be looking at anything EXCEPT DCs. Go and look at several different makes and TRY them, don't just buy a set because "Everyone has them." There have been several threads recently on the subject of headsets, I would suggest you have a look through them at the various thoughts and comments.
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one thing i would say get with most of the headsets is gel ear pads
I also agree that Bose headsets are better but are 3-4x the price.
The overall best though are clarity aloft, which fit in your ears. Better noise reduction than Bose and lighter than anything else.
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Although David Clarkes seem to be 'the standard' name for headsets in GA, I wanted to try a different set. I went for Sennheiser HME100's which are great. I went for these over the DC's due to knowing about Sennheiser's reputation with HiFi Headphones and Earphones.
They are comfy and keep all unwanted noise out, no where near as good as my friends Bose-X headset though - but they are around £700 per set, which is why.
You get what you pay for with any line of headset.
They are comfy and keep all unwanted noise out, no where near as good as my friends Bose-X headset though - but they are around £700 per set, which is why.
You get what you pay for with any line of headset.
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Another vote for the Sennheiser HME100. Had mine 5 years and found them reliable, robust and have excellent audio.
They are light weight and easy to adjust, reversible(handy to have the wire down the other side occasionally) and fold into the headband so they don't take up so much space in your bag.
On the down side they don't have gel seals so don't work so well with glasses that have thick sidebars.
They are light weight and easy to adjust, reversible(handy to have the wire down the other side occasionally) and fold into the headband so they don't take up so much space in your bag.
On the down side they don't have gel seals so don't work so well with glasses that have thick sidebars.
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i have a pair of clarity aloft and agree they are very good no weight on the head in the ear makes hearing the radio so much clearer and easier
I also have a pair of the Sennheiser hme110 and are also very good now the misses uses them
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I also have a pair of the Sennheiser hme110 and are also very good now the misses uses them
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I find it ver comfortable wearing sunglasses with my clarity headset it is only a thin piece of wire thats around the top and back of ear then the glasses just sit on top
I like the idea of the new Tbone head set with no microphone !
I like the idea of the new Tbone head set with no microphone !
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I have the DC20-10 but they are the XL version, which has ANR (Active noise reduction). They are very comfortable, and don't clamp your head like some of the other DC models. I have them 6-7 years now, and not a single fault, and they look the same as they did the day I got them.
Only complaint is that the clamping force is quite light, and if you turn you look down and then back up very quickly, it's possible that they move on your head.
I wouldn't buy anything without ANR/ENC (Electronic Noise Cancelling) if you're planning on flying for many years to come.
Only complaint is that the clamping force is quite light, and if you turn you look down and then back up very quickly, it's possible that they move on your head.
I wouldn't buy anything without ANR/ENC (Electronic Noise Cancelling) if you're planning on flying for many years to come.
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I like the idea of the new Tbone head set with no microphone !
However - just checked their website and they seem to have all sort of testimonials from airline guys - but then the order page says
We are awaiting the authorization of the organization and therefore we cannot deliver the headsets yet
On the down side they don't have gel seals so don't work so well with glasses that have thick sidebars.
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I use the DC H10-13X I find the ANR really good. The first headset I had was the Peltor 8006. This was really good, very confortable and light weight. I decided to get an ANR headset just for that extra bit of protection and find it is worth the extra money.
Hope this helps, good luck with the PPL.
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Hope this helps, good luck with the PPL.
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I have used DCs for a large portion of my flying and can now say I categorically hate them.
You can wear a Bose all day with comfort use a DC and in no time they clamp the side of your head and cut off the blood supply
and are totally uncomfortable.
For a full headset I would rather look on E bay for a second hand Bose than buy a DC new.
The sound cancelling with Bose is great the Bose adding to a relaxed sense of wellbeing.
In jets we do not use full headsets but usually the telex variety. Bose are even comfortable compared to those and appear to be standard use more and more in corporate jets too.
Spoil yourself and buy a Bose it should be with you for a long time.
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You can wear a Bose all day with comfort use a DC and in no time they clamp the side of your head and cut off the blood supply
and are totally uncomfortable.For a full headset I would rather look on E bay for a second hand Bose than buy a DC new.
The sound cancelling with Bose is great the Bose adding to a relaxed sense of wellbeing.
In jets we do not use full headsets but usually the telex variety. Bose are even comfortable compared to those and appear to be standard use more and more in corporate jets too.
Spoil yourself and buy a Bose it should be with you for a long time.
Pace