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Old 1st Dec 2008, 16:55
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Opinions on Xaon XRX System?

Just wanted to see has anyone bought or used the XAON XRX pcas system? Watched a video of it on youtube and seeing how it interfaces into Garmin portables, it seems like a good buy, if it works as advertised over here.

Anyone able to recommend it?

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Works very well. Especially linked to the Garmin.
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Brilliant system. I use it linked to a Garmin 496.
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General opinion seems to be that they work well PROVIDED you follow the instructions in calibrating the unit correctly.

Some people have also reported problems with their old transponders giving out false reading...new antenna seems to sort that.

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I have one fitted in an R44 and interfaced to a Garmin 495. It works very well and has helped me out quite a few times in the busy VFR areas around Sydney. I even had it work ~200nm south of Alice Springs in the middle of nowhere. Couldn't figure it till I realized that an accompanying EC-120's TCAS was triggering the transponders of the other helos around us (quite a few on that trip). Poor man's TCAS, commensurate with the R44 . I have it mounted top, right console with a vibration dampening (piece of foam) velcro mount. Seems to be pretty spot on in terms of locating traffic.
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I have one in my Remos and very pleased with it. Every little bit helps when you fly out of NZ's busiest airport, Ardmore
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I think "Flyer" magazine did a road test on two of these units and found them to be incredibly unreliable giving out many spurious readings ( mainly from one's own transponder) However, as shown here, many people love 'em to bits.
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The Flyer review was done by Ian Segar if I remember correctly. I posts here from time to time too, so may comment himself.

I understand from Ian's postings on the Flyer forum, that he's now happy with the unit.
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The review in LOOP is here: ZAON XRX
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I'm happy with it interfaced to the G496. I was flying yesterday and had a traffic alert right behind me, same altitude. Seemed to be following me so I thought it could be a false alert, so I turned my transpoder off. Still there and then it started descending to 500 below so I guess it was real. When I flew over Bourenmouth a few weeks ago it spotted ever bit of traffic that I saw in the right location.
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I wish there was a way to install the top-end Zaon unit neatly. Currently, it looks a dreadful hack, stuck to the top of the dash and with the power lead going down to the cigar lighter.

If they did something with a remote antenna, one could do a reasonably clean "officially removable" job, wired to the intercom. One can do that with a GPS in the yoke.
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That would be nice, then you could hide it under the seat and have just the RS232 cable running to the GPS. I don't see why a remote antenna (or two) couldn't be produced cheaply and hull mounted. There's a job for your company IO - manufacture Aviation electronics
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Is this what you are talking about IO?

Seems to be awhile since they updated progress....
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If you have a look at the forum on the Xaon site the company states all development on a remote solution is on indefinite hold. I contacted them 6 months ago and asked if there was going to be a remote solution and was told no.

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Shame because they would sell loads and loads. The cheapest installed version is an active Avidyne 600 TCAS system which costs at least £10k to install.
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Couldn't figure it till I realized that an accompanying EC-120's TCAS was triggering the transponders of the other helos around us
In case you are in the outback with no "official" radar or TCAS in sight, how hard would it be (both legally and physically) to generate your own "radar" pulse to trigger transponders all around you and show up on a Zaon or similar?

Not really relevant where I fly, but just wondering.
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Yeh, funny, had the same thought. I doubt that it would be legal as you are now transmitting. You just have to fly in company with a "big bird".
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Question

The other way around question - would it work in a non-transponder-equipped aircraft such as my microlight or does it need the host aircraft to be squawking?

Edit: silly question, it says in here that it does.

Rephrase the question: has anybody experience of using one in a microlight or similar, especially in a busy area? What do you think? Is it worth a grand?
MB

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Old 5th Dec 2008, 16:36
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Madambreakneck - I think the XRX rerquires power from aircraft. Smaller MRX is battery powered and I don't see why it shouldn't work. It has built in altitude sensing but height difference to target may not be as accurate without the information from your own transponder.
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Originally Posted by irish seaplane
Just wanted to see has anyone bought or used the XAON XRX pcas system? Watched a video of it on youtube and seeing how it interfaces into Garmin portables, it seems like a good buy, if it works as advertised over here.

Anyone able to recommend it?

Irish
whats the link for the youtube vid?
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