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Old 22nd Oct 2008, 19:10
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Smile Mid-air collision - and survived !

What a remarkable story from the USA . . . . . . !

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ok then! Lets keep THIS trend and loose the one of the last coouple of weeks!
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Smile optimism rules , OK . . . . . ?

OK then! Let's keep THIS trend and lose the one of the last couple of weeks!
Good idea ! Couldn't agree more.

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Picture of the 210 after 'landing'



more here .....

FAA to Investigate Midair Collision Involving MCSO Plane / 11 News, Grand Junction's News Leader, Eleven Minutes of Non-Stop News, No-Wait Weather, Montrose News
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Father, son crash-land plane upside down, walk away uninjured
Published October 22, 2008 @ 11:07 am by Gary Harmon

Several people survived a midair collision of small airplanes above the Grand Valley this morning.

A father and son crash-landed upside down on a plateau between Lands End Road and U.S. Highway 50 on the south side of Grand Mesa.

Pilot Tom Haefeli of Del Norte and his father John were over the Kannah Creek area, and Tom was making a soft turn.

“All of a sudden there was a plane right in front of us” John Haefeli said.

Tom Haefeli turned the nose down, but it was too late. The other plane sheared off a section of the tail, and from then on he had no control of the plane.

They had time to think, “We’re not going to make it,” John said.

The plane landed upside down and quickly came to rest, not sliding along the ground, John said.

The St. Mary’s Hospital CareFlight helicopter was dispatched to the crash site, but the Haefelis pulled themselves out of their plane and gathered their belongings.

They were taken from the crash scene by ground ambulance as a precaution, authorities said.

The Haefelis said they were flying to Idaho to pick up a car they had bought.
The second airplane, which was carrying two prisoners, made it to Grand Junction Regional Airport with damaged landing gear. It came to rest tail up on the north runway.

No injuries were reported.

Two prisoners were seen exiting the plane at the airport, and the prisoners were taken from the airport in a Mesa County Sheriff’s Department vehicle.
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Red face a very small point . . . . . . . . .

The article cited there says "FAA to investigate". I thought the FAA was the equivalent of our CAA, and their equivalent of our AAIB is the NTSB.

In the UK it would be investigated by the AAIB, not the CAA. Is this just journalistic sloppiness ?
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Those nose draggers always were a bit tricky to land....
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Originally Posted by AMEandPPL
The article cited there says "FAA to investigate". I thought the FAA was the equivalent of our CAA, and their equivalent of our AAIB is the NTSB.

In the UK it would be investigated by the AAIB, not the CAA. Is this just journalistic sloppiness ?
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You forgot that our media is the equivalent of your media!

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Originally Posted by AMEandPPL
The article cited there says "FAA to investigate". I thought the FAA was the equivalent of our CAA, and their equivalent of our AAIB is the NTSB.

In the UK it would be investigated by the AAIB, not the CAA. Is this just journalistic sloppiness ?
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You forgot that our media is the equivalent of your media!

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Actually the media over in the USA are worse, but I get your point!
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TCAS TCAS TCAS TCAS,

nuff said,
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TCAS TCAS TCAS TCAS,
How much, How much, How much, Nuff said
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"Two prisoners were seen exiting the plane at the airport,"

What on earth is that supposed to imply? Were they prisoners before they left the plane, or after??

Oh dear, I ought to rethink my landing technique. I also land tail up!
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Red face

The explanation was just two lines above . . . . . . .

The second airplane, which was carrying two prisoners
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Are there no pictures available of the "upside down" landed plane?
Just curious.....
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VanHorck - try this link for a pic
Crash Survivor: "All of a Sudden there was a Plane Headed for Us" / 11 News, Grand Junction's News Leader, Eleven Minutes of Non-Stop News, No-Wait Weather, Montrose News

flybymike - "nose dragger"?, looks more like a "nose puller" to me....
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Con Air

Anyone else wondering whether one of the '2 prisoners' decided that he wasn't going to spend the next x years in prison?

Why on earth would you transport prisoners in a 210?
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Red face they yelled what . . . . . . . ?

they had no time for fear as they tightened there seatbelts and yelled obscenities
In that situation one could be forgiven for yelling almost ANYTHING at all !!

What a revelation that a Journalist, of all people, can't spell THEIR correctly
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The Americans can't spell all sorts of words properly, including "ambulence"
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"Why on earth would you transport prisoners in a 210?"

With the distances in the US, transporting prisoners by light aircraft is quite common - a lot of police departments have their own aircraft for it.
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Bl...dy Hell.!!!! Of all the strange coincidences in the World!!!. I spent a week at Oshkosh Wisconsin last year in the company of Laura and Tom Haefeli. Lovely people. They had a Cessna 180, and we were offered shelter underneath it from a thunder storm on the first day, and remained friends with them throughout the week. Really glad they got away with it. He is a bee keeper, and his wife was in the US mountain running team for some time. They were really nice to us Brits.
I must assume that it can only be them, but if anyone has any other information as to wether or not it was someone different, could they please post. Cheers. John.
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Smile limited options . . . . . . . . . !

With the distances in the US, transporting prisoners by light aircraft is quite common
I suppose they are less likely to try to open the door and jump to freedom than if they were in a car on the ground !

What's the betting that they try to sue for compensation for having such an unpleasant day ? And what's the betting that they'll get it ? ? ! !
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