Microlights..Are they exempt the ANO?
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Microlights..Are they exempt the ANO?
I am not being a NIMBY, nor am I trying to spoil another pilots fun, but for the last two days a Blade microlight has been operating at around 100' over my house and the immediate area. I don't mind, but frankly combined with the other ML's operating from the same strip he has been a nuisance.
Are these aircraft exempt the '500' from any person, vessel, vehicle or structure rule' or should they conform to the same low flying rules as the rest of us.
No offence buddy, but if you want to see Little Moreton Hall that close up....Drive there!
(Yes, I do have the registration, and have the owners name from G-INFO)
Are these aircraft exempt the '500' from any person, vessel, vehicle or structure rule' or should they conform to the same low flying rules as the rest of us.
No offence buddy, but if you want to see Little Moreton Hall that close up....Drive there!
(Yes, I do have the registration, and have the owners name from G-INFO)
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I guess BB probably plans to but needed to be clued up.A friendly word from a fellow aviator may not be well received and it's a comfort to have the (air)law backing you up.
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But ringing the guy is going to achieve an awful lot more than posting here!
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BB,
The best thing you can do is approach the owner/operator of the airstrip and tell him what's happened and that if it happens again you will complain to the CAA about it. Most farm strip operators are not tollerant of this kind of behaviour, due to planing contrainsts, NIMBYS etc. Especially if it endangers the existance of their strip. The last thing they want is some idiot messing it all up for them. A quiet word in the strip owner's ear should nip it in the bud. It is very difficult to prove and convict low flying in court as some fairly hard evidence is required and most witness staments are fairly inaccurate because they are not pilots. You would probably be best to have a camera to hand so that if he does it again you can get a photo with the aircraft reg and a reference in the background to measure height off to prove he was low flying. It shouldn't need to come to that, like I say a word with the strip owner should sort it out.
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JUCKY
The best thing you can do is approach the owner/operator of the airstrip and tell him what's happened and that if it happens again you will complain to the CAA about it. Most farm strip operators are not tollerant of this kind of behaviour, due to planing contrainsts, NIMBYS etc. Especially if it endangers the existance of their strip. The last thing they want is some idiot messing it all up for them. A quiet word in the strip owner's ear should nip it in the bud. It is very difficult to prove and convict low flying in court as some fairly hard evidence is required and most witness staments are fairly inaccurate because they are not pilots. You would probably be best to have a camera to hand so that if he does it again you can get a photo with the aircraft reg and a reference in the background to measure height off to prove he was low flying. It shouldn't need to come to that, like I say a word with the strip owner should sort it out.
Regards,
JUCKY
Are these aircraft exempt the '500' from any person, vessel, vehicle or structure rule'
Exemptions from the low flying prohibitions
6. The exemptions from the low flying prohibitions are as follows—
(a) Landing and taking off
(i) Any aircraft shall be exempt from the low flying prohibitions in so far as it is flying in accordance with normal aviation practice for the purpose of—
(aa) taking off from, landing at or practising approaches to landing at; or
(bb) checking navigational aids or procedures at,
a Government or licensed aerodrome.
(ii) Any aircraft shall be exempt from the 500 feet rule when landing and taking-off in accordance with normal aviation practice or air-taxiing.
6. The exemptions from the low flying prohibitions are as follows—
(a) Landing and taking off
(i) Any aircraft shall be exempt from the low flying prohibitions in so far as it is flying in accordance with normal aviation practice for the purpose of—
(aa) taking off from, landing at or practising approaches to landing at; or
(bb) checking navigational aids or procedures at,
a Government or licensed aerodrome.
(ii) Any aircraft shall be exempt from the 500 feet rule when landing and taking-off in accordance with normal aviation practice or air-taxiing.
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Isn't that a bit lacking in social skills? Complaining about someone on a public internet forum when it would probably be so much easier to just walk over to their airstrip and have a chat. Might even make a friend 
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Just a small point - are you sure it was 100ft? Do you have something to compare aircraft's height with?
I just ask, 'cos it's notoriously difficult judge the the height of an aircraft from the ground. Not saying you're wrong, just wondering if you might be.
Perhaps a neat way would be to ring up the owner (not necessarily the pilot) and ask what height they were at and tell them (politely) that you and others found it disturbing.
Hope you find an amicable solution.
MB
I just ask, 'cos it's notoriously difficult judge the the height of an aircraft from the ground. Not saying you're wrong, just wondering if you might be.
Perhaps a neat way would be to ring up the owner (not necessarily the pilot) and ask what height they were at and tell them (politely) that you and others found it disturbing.
Hope you find an amicable solution.
MB
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As I originally asked. Are microlights exempt the 500' rule?...no they're not, so I have my answer.
Thank you for your replies. If the miscreant appears in the same area again at the same height then I will deal with the matter locally.
BB.
Thank you for your replies. If the miscreant appears in the same area again at the same height then I will deal with the matter locally.
BB.
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It's sometimes useful to read a poster's profile...... I think the original poster has quite some aviation experience himself and probably already knows about the problems of estimating the height of a passing aircraft. 
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So you think he lied on his profile? I suppose he could have but it's not my concern and I'm not going to argue the toss. 
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Just a small point - are you sure it was 100ft? Do you have something to compare aircraft's height with?
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We have an ex BA training captain who now runs a small business getting people over their fear of flying yet is a mainstay of our local Nimbys. He has provided his expertise and credentials in an attempt to 'rubbish' the log book and booking in sheet evidence that we have submitted in support of our Certificate of lawful use application.
When that failed he has claimed that we have been flying unlawfully by virtue of the fact that we have 'admitted' training from an unlicensed airfield.
Perhaps the drivers of big planes are genuinely not aware of the regulations as they apply to us little boys.
You have your answer, hopefully there won't be a next time with this 'idiot' microlight pilot but if there is he really should be spoken to. Most of us don't bite and has already been said on this thread a polite complaint would be far more likely to get the required result than a whinge on here.
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Our locals had made one complaint in the past 20 years. as a club we have in that time had the occasional idiot that has flown inconsiderately but peer pressure soon stops that. The opposition from our local (4 miles from the strip) ex BA captain appears to be based on the fact that we have had the temerity to apply for the lawful use certificate only.
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When that failed he has claimed that we have been flying unlawfully by virtue of the fact that we have 'admitted' training from an unlicensed airfield.
Perhaps the drivers of big planes are genuinely not aware of the regulations as they apply to us little boys.
You have your answer, hopefully there won't be a next time with this 'idiot' microlight pilot but if there is he really should be spoken to. Most of us don't bite and has already been said on this thread a polite complaint would be far more likely to get the required result than a whinge on here.
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Our locals had made one complaint in the past 20 years. as a club we have in that time had the occasional idiot that has flown inconsiderately but peer pressure soon stops that. The opposition from our local (4 miles from the strip) ex BA captain appears to be based on the fact that we have had the temerity to apply for the lawful use certificate only.
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Of course another point to remind readers is that the 500' rule applies to a 500 foot 'bubble' around the vessel, vehicle, structure or assembly of persons in question. It is perfectly possible and legal to go lower than 500 foot as long as the 'bubble' isn't infringed... except of course when the location is a 'congested area' in which case the 1000 foot rule (formerly the 1500' rule) applies.
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The original question was not about the content or meaning of Rule 5, but whether or not it applied to a particular category of aircraft, which it does.
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just for clarity
I thought microlights were not allowed to overfly a congested area.
Can someone advise on this point?
'congested area' in which case the 1000 foot rule (formerly the 1500' rule) applies.
Can someone advise on this point?