PompeyPaul

If anything I would rather see, on the front of all web pages:

"THIS IS A RUMOUR SITE FOR DISCUSSION. PROCEDURES, IDEAS AND DISCUSSIONS SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES"

Yes I get that there are some very experienced pilots on here with 1000s of hours. The thing is though ASCII sucks as a means of communication. Those who spout their opinions most visciously tend to be the ones that are discussed and disected.

I worry that this site actually does more harm to newbies than good. If you are in any doubt what so ever than this site is NOT the place to get that doubt sorted out, you should ask an instructor.

I also know the "special ones" think some instructors suck, but if nothing else that instructor is there in front of you and gets a better idea from your body language etc as to your level, who you are, are you joking or serious ?

Nominating acredited "special ones" is as good as creating an AAIB report right now. No matter how "special" the "special one" is, if they are answering ASCII they're only getting 30% of the communication.

This site needs far more disclaimers than it does accreditation.

Really, really, really, bad and dangerous idea

Fuji Abound

Kevmusic

My goodness, I am flattered to bits to be mentioned in dispatches in such illustrious circles. Thank you, although I am not sure it is deserved!

vee-tail-1

This forum works fine as it is.
We are all however reacting a bit like chickens with a fox in the hen house.
I think David is a troll.
But if he really is the aggressive arrogant antagonistic pratt with a ppl that he appears, then he is also an accident about to happen.

DavidHoul52

Have now repented and am walking around in sackcloth and ashes. See my earlier posting on this thread.

PompeyPaul

He didn't come across that way to me, where as everyone who piled in to give him a hard time did. Hate to admit it, that's the way it looked to me.

Flame suit on

Rod1

This forum works fine as it is. Experience is not necessarily a good thing. I have been flying since 1984 and passed my PPL in 91. If you ask me about the latest JAA PPL test I will have no clue. Some of the “experience” on this forum is very out of date.

David, the degree of “bashing” you are getting appears to me to be out of proportion to your original “crime”. It may be easier for you to slide off to the “other place” for a bit until the “gentleman” loose interest.

Rod1

DavidHoul52

I am a changed man. I will soon be visiting you all on a flying mission of peace and goodwill.

Chuck Ellsworth

I am truly glad that I deleted my suggestion regarding giving advice on this forum.

I had no idea that it would receive the response that it did.

I wish to thank those of you who believe that attempting to learn from a written source of information is not a workable mechanism, so lets throw all work books out of schools while we are at it.

Just one last question before I leave this thread I started.

Some time ago here on Pprune I posted a written description of how to judge height during the approach and landing phase of flight, was there even one person out there who derived some useful knowledge from my effort?

Fuji Abound

Chuck

Yes, I did.

It was a fascinating read.

I agree with you, there are many very informative posts on this forum, which are instructive and reflect the experiences of the poster - often experiences that can only be gained from many 1,000 of hours of real world flying, rather than from many 1,000 of hours spent "bashing" students around the local cabbage patch.

The real problem is some people cant be bothered to read, and when they do they read what they want to read, not what was said.

S-Works

Indeed, I find most of your posts, educating and informative drawing on considerable personal experience. Unfortunately you are also prone to slipping into personal attacks when things don't go your way (I speak from experience being on the receiving end...). Which is why I don't believe people holding themselves out as 'super users' would work.

This does not mean that I won't continue to read and be educated by your posts should you continue to share your experience.

Chuck Ellsworth

Thanks Fuji Abound.

The real problem with these internet forums is it takes time to separate the various posters out and disregard the trolls and the mentally challenged from those who have something valuable to offer.

In the final analysis the forums work about as well as can be expected.

I personally have difficulty dealing with people who are outspoken to the point of being insulting knowing they are taking advantage of anonymity.

In my world when we offer our thoughts we are willing to do so openly because we are willing to be taken at face value and if wrong we are willing to learn from being wrong.

mcgoo

Why not just have a locked sticky thread where articles of merit (like Chucks on landing) can be stored without all the posts and so making them easy to find and read?

Whirlybird

I've been reading and writing on PPRune for years and years, far longer than most of the people who've posted here.

During that time I've learned a tremendous amount, and been helped by some wonderful people; I honestly doubt if I'd have got my CPL(H) and FI rating without them; in fact, I might even have given up flying. I've also run into some complete and utter idiots who shouldn't be allowed to post on a tiddlywinks website, let alone an aviation forum.

I've been put on a pedestal and told I'm wonderful, flamed thoroughly and been told I know nothing, treated like ****, or like I was some kind of goddess...and even just occasionally been treated like a normal human being who happens to fly helicopters and have a bit of a way with words.

I've been addicted to PPRuNe and posted so often that peple began to loathe the sight of my name, and sometimes hated it so much I've stayed away...but never for too long as I'm a bit of a PPRuNeaholic (only a bit, yeah, right, I hear them all say). And I've been busy - as I have been recently - so that I've missed what's been going on and I'm not quite sure what all of this is about.

The point I'm making is that you'll find all sorts on PPRuNe. You can find some useful and enjoyable stuff, and even make real and long-lasting friends. But you need to put on your armour before you come in, and never forget your sense of humour.

In fact, strange as it may seem....PPRuNe is just like the rest of the world, and the people who inhabit it are the same as the majority of the human race.

Final 3 Greens

You bet. Just wish I read it when I was very low houred.

Final 3 Greens

Well, you will be a changed man if you try to fly one of those with your professed techniques

Seriously, I hope that you do read the landings thread again and take away someting of value, we may shout sometimes, but generally it is out of concern more than anything else.

For the avoidance of doubt, posted by a very average low hours PPL whose motivation is to stop others scaring themselves as much as he has done in the past.

SkyHawk-N

No it's not

Pilot DAR

I've read all of the posts, and do realize that my original thoughts on this subject were not the result of broad enough thinking. Others here obvioulsy have valuable experience with challenges such as these. I thus defer to their collective wisdom.

I did like the idea of tallying thank you's. It seems simple, voluntary, and just plain polite! It reminds me of the feedback on eBay - well though out, and effective.

I'll follow the crowd on this one...

Pilot DAR

BackPacker

From personal experience, if you have something that may be really useful for the crowd here and you take your time writing it up decently, the mods have no problem with making it a sticky.

Result is that we do have something like five sticky threads up, which is doable, but we should not have many more otherwise there's no space for non-sticky threads on the page.

Why not do away with all the sticky threads, replace them with ONE sticky thread "The Best of PPRuNe Private Flying" and for each of the interesting threads that would otherwise have been made a sticky, add one post with a short description and a link. Perhaps the post could even include a summary.

It requires a bit of moderation and some discipline so that people don't fill that "Best of" thread with nonsense posts, but I've got the feeling that people are already careful in posting in sticky threads today so that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Occasionally the subject of a FAQ list comes up as well. We might be able to use this instead: for each frequently asked question ("when does my license expire" for instance) simply point to the relevant thread.

mark sicknote

Stick with us Chuck. I find you posts both interesting and informative.

Best,

Sicknote

bjornhall

There's a downside to that as well. Usually, people post a question here in order to have a discussion on the answer, or the question, or anything else that pops up in relation to it... That point is pretty much lost when all you get for your effort is a link back to some other time when some others got to discuss the same issue... In the example given, if a one-way-communication answer was sought, surely one would visit the relevant CAA web page instead?

As someone wisely said, the forum ain't broken...