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Old 27th Aug 2008, 17:31
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Thanks for the suggestions so far.

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A cross-Africa flight.
West side including across the Sahara.

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Aeronca C3 with long range tanks and a blind flying panel. Did London to Capetown in 1936.
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If you decide on the Caravan, I have two and would be happy to supply you with a pilot. Just let me know.
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In my experience of long flights the Percival Prentice was quite good; rumbled along on cruise RPM/moderate boost, very stable, all the way LGW to Sharjah, quite a long time ago. Some downsides, like the occasional quietness when the engine stopped in cloud because it didn't like dampness or caught fire, bit slow, drank fuel, but in general not a bad aircraft on a cold day. There's one at Coventry.

Mind you, that's my only experience of a long flight in a light aircraft. A grown-up spamcan could be boring, I think. What about one of the "microlights"? Now that would be fun. 450Kg for you, fuel and the aircraft. Should be enough. Mogas, too, I think, on a Rotax?

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If operating on mogas is a requirement, one cannot beat a Wasp or Wasp Jr. - and for sheer comfort and reliability go in a DGA!


One flew the London-to-Victoria race (1973??)
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If refueling en-route might be a problem, you can always just do the whole distance in one go, taking off with all the fuel on-board that you need.

However, the only single engine that I know of that's capable of flying those distances and beyond is now on permanent static display at the Smithsonian.

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Old 27th Aug 2008, 23:04
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A cross-Africa flight.
West side including across the Sahara.
OK, we're getting somewhere (must say, I kinda liked the 777 with one donk switched off suggestion !)

Now, Africa, west side, you'll run into the Avgas issue. However, this is doable with some planning. If you can lay your hand on one, I'd suggest a C210 with the tip tanks (endurance AFAIK +/- 10 hours) and pre-positioned fuel. You'll be fine into mid/southern Morocco, then you'll need to organize the drums. Mate of mine did just that - PM me for his details. Avgas is avail again from Namibia on, possibly (need to check) Cameroon. Also, in a 210 you can land pretty much anywhere, and there are maintenance shops along the way that can fix things.
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The problem is that somebody cannot hope to post a few vague lines and expect intelligent answers.
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Old 28th Aug 2008, 07:05
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Quest Kodiak.

Questaircraft.com | Quest Aircraft Company

A friend just flew one back from the states to the Fatherland, and loves it.
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Old 28th Aug 2008, 13:06
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The Mooney Ovation 2 GX.
2400nm range - 160kts at 10gph.
Svc celing FL200
192kts max cruise if you're in a hurry.
Unbeatable range and economy, you would only have to stop twice on your 6000nm trip.

Just make sure you take a large pee container.

Nothing else comes close

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Old 28th Aug 2008, 19:14
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2400nm range - 160kts at 10gph
Amazing.

What altitude (ISA assumed) is the 160kt TAS?
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Old 29th Aug 2008, 23:06
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IO, best performance for me seems to be up at FL150-160.
I know this means O2 but the fuel saving is far more significant than the cost of the O2.
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Personal choice for the trip described: Helio Stallion.

1000 mile range with standard tanks; very useful payload, 175knts cruise and the ability to land on a postage stamp.

If budget an issue get an old Courier
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Would love to know how you squeeze 2400nm out of an Ovation

"QUOTE: The Mooney Ovation 2 GX.
2400nm range - 160kts at 10gph.
Svc celing FL200
192kts max cruise if you're in a hurry.
Unbeatable range and economy, you would only have to stop twice on your 6000nm trip.
Just make sure you take a large pee container.
Nothing else comes close
SB"
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 19:58
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>>>Some downsides, like the occasional quietness when the engine stopped in cloud because it didn't like dampness or caught fire<<<

A master stroke in under-statement!!!
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 22:58
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Piper Cherokee Six

Piper Cherokee Six - great aircraft and got us around the world, 24,000 nm. Take the back 4 seats out and drop in a ferry tank and you have range over 2,000nm
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 05:59
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With a ferry tank you can have all the range you want, but you need a permission for every flight because the plane has a special mod and is probably loaded outside its CofA. Not very practical.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 11:28
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Take a STEMME S10vt and you could glide most of the way.(50-1 ratio)
Just kidding, though it would be a unique way of doing it.
Try reading about Owen Truelove. UK to New Zealand by Stemme.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...icle663616.ece
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 14:29
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According to the mooney web site, the ovation 2gx has optional tanks with a 128 usg capacity. They do quote 2400nm range. But at 10usg/hr that means 150 usg to dry tanks? 8usg/hr for 15 hrs + 45 mins reserve would be the numbers given the info on the site. Mooney - Specifications/Performance
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Old 2nd Oct 2008, 19:23
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The Quest Kodiak

I flew 005 back from the states recently. The only one in Europe. We did several legs over 5 hours (at a typical cruise of 160kias) one of which was over 6 hours non stop and all of it on internal tanks. No ferry tanks required. Ok so we were up at 25,000 for most of it but its still not bad........
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