Can you justify flying?
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From: Warboys
£185/hour does sound steep, I would look for a different School!
Coming back to Flying after 18 years away, it is comparatively much cheaper, I was paying £65-85/hour back in 1986, I pay £103/hour to rent a Warrior now (£135 dual)
Coming back to Flying after 18 years away, it is comparatively much cheaper, I was paying £65-85/hour back in 1986, I pay £103/hour to rent a Warrior now (£135 dual)
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From: Nottingham
Summing up
This thread was summed up a while ago by BoseX with "You only live once" and that's absolutely correct!
If you love and enjoy every second of what your doing then that's justification enough!
Spru!
If you love and enjoy every second of what your doing then that's justification enough!
Spru!
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From: Savannah GA & Portsmouth UK
My flying costs me 35 quid an hour wet plus 45 quid a month, I can certainly justify that.
Like all things it's what you personally see as value, which is an entirely different thing to price.
Like all things it's what you personally see as value, which is an entirely different thing to price.
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From: Norfolk UK
I can assure you that it is a lot,lot cheaper than sailing a small cruiser or low key amateur motorsport.
You need to join a decent group,we pay £40/hr all in plus around £200-300 per year according to finances.
The aircraft is one year older than me,but it is a WW2 military Cub still in US Army colours and a delight to fly!
Lister
Now an old age pensioner,can't wait to get the cheque,should pay for all my flying.
You need to join a decent group,we pay £40/hr all in plus around £200-300 per year according to finances.
The aircraft is one year older than me,but it is a WW2 military Cub still in US Army colours and a delight to fly!
Lister
Now an old age pensioner,can't wait to get the cheque,should pay for all my flying.
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From: On a roll...
Agree with OldPilot....as it's my job too...
There's been "55 years" left of oil for the last 40 years. As we reach deeper & further offshore, use creative new technology & the high selling price encourages more expensive Exploration, we shall have plenty left around for a while yet. As a leading OPEC minister said only this week, the current price has nothing to do the law of supply & demand, more to do with sporadic geo-politics.
The complex new web of relations between one out-going super-power, one ex-super-power & two new ones will certainly make the trends as difficult to predict as ever, but oil is not running out so quickly technology cannot keep up.
And we're not even talking about the 250 years of natural gas or the increasing use of renewables here...
As any Earth Scientist will tell you, it's the energy usage, stupid, not the supply that's the issue.
As for why fly...?? What other activity can guarantee to humble you and intrigue you in equal measure every time you experience it...?!?
BFA
There's been "55 years" left of oil for the last 40 years. As we reach deeper & further offshore, use creative new technology & the high selling price encourages more expensive Exploration, we shall have plenty left around for a while yet. As a leading OPEC minister said only this week, the current price has nothing to do the law of supply & demand, more to do with sporadic geo-politics.
The complex new web of relations between one out-going super-power, one ex-super-power & two new ones will certainly make the trends as difficult to predict as ever, but oil is not running out so quickly technology cannot keep up.
And we're not even talking about the 250 years of natural gas or the increasing use of renewables here...
As any Earth Scientist will tell you, it's the energy usage, stupid, not the supply that's the issue.
As for why fly...?? What other activity can guarantee to humble you and intrigue you in equal measure every time you experience it...?!?
BFA
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From: SW
Is the probability of you running out of money much higher than that of us running out of oil.
BTW the smug sods from North America should understand that they are upsetting people with '$5 Avgas' when $15 will be melting plastic in UK.
BTW the smug sods from North America should understand that they are upsetting people with '$5 Avgas' when $15 will be melting plastic in UK.
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From: Hong Kong
I fly with a group of mates. Sometimes we share to cut costs. Sometimes we take the whole "squadron" out on maneuvers.
If we log one hour, we talk about the trip hours before and hours afterwards...sometimes weeks.
For me that makes flying a cheap pastime.
Best,
Sicknote
If we log one hour, we talk about the trip hours before and hours afterwards...sometimes weeks.
For me that makes flying a cheap pastime.
Best,
Sicknote
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From: South Norfolk, England
What price sanity?
My justification is that if I didn't fly I'd go mad! I'm stuck on this bl@@dy farm pretty much 24/7 seven days a week. I live here and work here and my aeroplane is my only real escape (how sad is that? lol).
Anyway, even though my hourly rate has gone up by nearly 10% in the last year, it's still less than £25/hr
It ain't sexy, it's not that good for touring .... but it is flying and I can afford it!
SS
My justification is that if I didn't fly I'd go mad! I'm stuck on this bl@@dy farm pretty much 24/7 seven days a week. I live here and work here and my aeroplane is my only real escape (how sad is that? lol).
Anyway, even though my hourly rate has gone up by nearly 10% in the last year, it's still less than £25/hr
It ain't sexy, it's not that good for touring .... but it is flying and I can afford it!
SS
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From: Wherever I lay my hat...
It's worth it!
Like many on here, I too have found financing my hour building a tad onerous... but, even though my career is no. 1, few experiences compare to sailing through the clouds. It's just an ubercool way to spend a day.
Of course, there are other incredible experiences we can pursue...try shark diving in the Great Barrier Reef (a whole new take on aerodynamics!)... but the degree of fascination has to do with the individual. You could say, the intrigue is in the eye of the beholder.
Pursuing our interests is just as important as completing our education... because what stimulates our mind, defines who we are.
It's all about perspective, so even if there are times when I can't really afford it; I shalln't ask myself if it's worth it. The day I have to ask myself that question, will be the day I know it no longer is
Of course, there are other incredible experiences we can pursue...try shark diving in the Great Barrier Reef (a whole new take on aerodynamics!)... but the degree of fascination has to do with the individual. You could say, the intrigue is in the eye of the beholder.
Pursuing our interests is just as important as completing our education... because what stimulates our mind, defines who we are.
It's all about perspective, so even if there are times when I can't really afford it; I shalln't ask myself if it's worth it. The day I have to ask myself that question, will be the day I know it no longer is
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From: Mexico
I would like to travel around in a huge Yacht full of Playmates, I can't afford it...nor could I justify divorcing my wife to go get it....But if I really wanted it, then I would figure out a way to get it.Where there is a will there is a way...
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From: Wherever I lay my hat...
What's YOUR dream...?
... travel around in a huge Yacht full of Playmates? So, at 65, that sums up what you'd really like to do?! 
Haaaa! What a post!
... like I said, what stimulates our mind, defines who we are!!!
Haaaa! What a post!
... like I said, what stimulates our mind, defines who we are!!!
..... errrrmmmm, sorry!