Bouncing on landing
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If you have space and control - I believe you can stick with it, but never put the stick forward! If you're slow, or short of space, give it power and go around. Initially on go around I look for level, then speed, then pitch. Don't simply pitch up without being sure it's got sufficient speed to fly. Also think flap retraction
I'm more into adding power and pitch up simultaneously and wait for positive climb to retract flaps. If you add power without pitch up, and you try to level off like you say, you have the chance in accelerating yourself into the ground.....
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Taildragger pilots know it best....
They know what happens if not reacting quickly, first bounce then a second one and a third, all of increasing magnitude..with eventually a stall and hard contact and some bent metal.
So no shame, save your day; When things go wrong, react promptly
FULL THROTTLE AND GO AROUND !!!!!!!!
Don't start thinking too much to the point that you may apprehend landing and not focuss correctly on the procedure.
After all when parking your car and miscalculate when reversing hitting the sidewalk what do you do ???? Just that "GO AROUND" get out and start again !!!!!!!!
They know what happens if not reacting quickly, first bounce then a second one and a third, all of increasing magnitude..with eventually a stall and hard contact and some bent metal.
So no shame, save your day; When things go wrong, react promptly
FULL THROTTLE AND GO AROUND !!!!!!!!
Don't start thinking too much to the point that you may apprehend landing and not focuss correctly on the procedure.
After all when parking your car and miscalculate when reversing hitting the sidewalk what do you do ???? Just that "GO AROUND" get out and start again !!!!!!!!
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Too many dogmatic, "one club golfer", replies on this thread.
Piper.Classique sums it up in his post.
Flying revolves around decision making, context is everything.
What may save you one day, may cause a crash another day.
Maintain situational awareness, consider your options (albeit pretty quickly in this scenario) and then act decisively.
Piper.Classique sums it up in his post.
Flying revolves around decision making, context is everything.
What may save you one day, may cause a crash another day.
Maintain situational awareness, consider your options (albeit pretty quickly in this scenario) and then act decisively.
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Excellent post by 3 greens
However, my 2p is that in this day of relaxing standards (see posts, many and various) a new(ish) say sub 100 hrs, pilot would be well advised to have a standard response of throwing away a bounce/hard landing and going around. There is a lot to consider in order to execute a well recovered bounce in a fairly short space of time for a new/inexperienced or more likely non-current (at least in go arounds) pilot.
Obviously everything is context based and if there is no room to go around then the prevailing conditions will apply but I have to say that it all comes back to the approach. Good, steady, well considered approaches rarely result in a bad landings, short overruns or white knuckle go arounds.
On a brighter note a pal (Tng Capt) recently had to lean over and 'pop the wheels down' on a 757 on short finals for a relatively experienced PF. He said "I think you'll need those" The reply? "I know but I've only just got it stable!"
We can all make a bad approach, its easy to solve unless you let it go too far with worries about money/ego/etc. Just go around, enjoy the extra long ride and set up a text book approach for no.2. this will probably impress the passengers/onlookers etc anyway and in any event if you need an excuse you could claim it was a go around practice so you were current if, in the unlikely event, you ever needed to do one for real!
Happy Ldgs to all
Xraf
However, my 2p is that in this day of relaxing standards (see posts, many and various) a new(ish) say sub 100 hrs, pilot would be well advised to have a standard response of throwing away a bounce/hard landing and going around. There is a lot to consider in order to execute a well recovered bounce in a fairly short space of time for a new/inexperienced or more likely non-current (at least in go arounds) pilot.
Obviously everything is context based and if there is no room to go around then the prevailing conditions will apply but I have to say that it all comes back to the approach. Good, steady, well considered approaches rarely result in a bad landings, short overruns or white knuckle go arounds.
On a brighter note a pal (Tng Capt) recently had to lean over and 'pop the wheels down' on a 757 on short finals for a relatively experienced PF. He said "I think you'll need those" The reply? "I know but I've only just got it stable!"
We can all make a bad approach, its easy to solve unless you let it go too far with worries about money/ego/etc. Just go around, enjoy the extra long ride and set up a text book approach for no.2. this will probably impress the passengers/onlookers etc anyway and in any event if you need an excuse you could claim it was a go around practice so you were current if, in the unlikely event, you ever needed to do one for real!
Happy Ldgs to all
Xraf
