after bi-annual check, form to go to CAA?
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All that may be true, but most wish to use the full validity of their 24 months. In such a case they must wait until they are within 3 months of the expiry date, even when all complience has been met, so not to lose continuity.
You explain the test exemption but it should be emphasised that only a test for the issue/maintenance of a licence/rating counts. A club check does not.
All that may be true, but most wish to use the full validity of their 24 months. In such a case they must wait until they are within 3 months of the expiry date, even when all complience has been met, so not to lose continuity.
You explain the test exemption but it should be emphasised that only a test for the issue/maintenance of a licence/rating counts. A club check does not.
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I don't think a form is sent to the CAA anymore for the 2-yearly renewal/revalidation, thats what I was told a month or two ago.
ie: They throw it away! but still needs to be signed by instructor and pilot!
If the pilot is over by just 1 day a GFT must be taken as it is then a revalidation.
Quoted from CAA phone call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lister,
Good. I have no doubt that your skills (and confidence) have increased as a result and that is the whole idea.
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Yes. A club check is not a test.
If one uses the system to the max, every 3 years one needs to have either;
a) a flight test for a rating of some kind; or
b) a 1 hour dual flight.
So one pilot can keep doing their renewals in the 3 month window.
They pay for test £350 (A/C plus test) and almost 2 years later a dual flight £150 plus £5 admin fee. Then they repeat in 2 years again £150 plus the £5 admin. Thus at the end on 6 years when they have to do it again they have spent £660
The other pilot pays for the test £350 and at the end of the first year extends by 2 years £5 admin fee. At the end of year 3 they complete the dual flight £150 and extend £5 admin. At the end of year 4 they extend £5 admin.
They both need to extend the rating at the end of year 6.
Pilot 1 has spent £660
Pilot 2 has spent £ 515
If my math is correct, Pilot 1 has spent 28% more for keeping their rating valid.
Using timing of additional rating training and/ or testing to reduce the need for dual flights and it is possible to fly for ever without having to do a dual flight specifically for the purpose of revalidation of the SEP rating.
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Good. I have no doubt that your skills (and confidence) have increased as a result and that is the whole idea.
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Homeguard,
Yes. A club check is not a test.
If one uses the system to the max, every 3 years one needs to have either;
a) a flight test for a rating of some kind; or
b) a 1 hour dual flight.
So one pilot can keep doing their renewals in the 3 month window.
They pay for test £350 (A/C plus test) and almost 2 years later a dual flight £150 plus £5 admin fee. Then they repeat in 2 years again £150 plus the £5 admin. Thus at the end on 6 years when they have to do it again they have spent £660
The other pilot pays for the test £350 and at the end of the first year extends by 2 years £5 admin fee. At the end of year 3 they complete the dual flight £150 and extend £5 admin. At the end of year 4 they extend £5 admin.
They both need to extend the rating at the end of year 6.
Pilot 1 has spent £660
Pilot 2 has spent £ 515
If my math is correct, Pilot 1 has spent 28% more for keeping their rating valid.
Using timing of additional rating training and/ or testing to reduce the need for dual flights and it is possible to fly for ever without having to do a dual flight specifically for the purpose of revalidation of the SEP rating.
Regards,
DFC
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Yes. A club check is not a test.
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I have never seen a form at any of the flying clubs that I have used to do my bienniel flight, I have just had my log book signed.... Does this mean I am not legal to fly and if so what can I do now to get back on track?
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I have never seen a form at any of the flying clubs that I have used to do my bienniel flight, I have just had my log book signed.... Does this mean I am not legal to fly and if so what can I do now to get back on track?
For JAA, an examiner has to check your logbook and sign your license - more specifically the rating validity page. And you jointly fill in form SRG\1119 and send it to the CAA.
If you have a JAA license and have not sent any paperwork to the CAA in the last two years then I fear you might indeed be flying illegally. Check out LASORS to see what you need to do to become legal again.
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If Stocker has an NPPL with SSEA rating then he would be legal (Until 31st January 2008 this was on a rolling validity and did not require an Examiner to sign the rating page).
Only the JAR/OLD UK licence requires the Examiner's signature and Form SRG/1119 completed.
I do not know what the requirements are for an FAA licence.
Only the JAR/OLD UK licence requires the Examiner's signature and Form SRG/1119 completed.
I do not know what the requirements are for an FAA licence.
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Darn. You're right. That's a combination I hadn't considered.
Stocker, we need more details: type of license, date issued (or renewed), what type or class rating you have, when that was last renewed, how many hours you have in each different type or class in the last 12 months, including instruction hours. Etc. Etc.
And then again, what you hear over here is pure speculation and guesswork from a bunch of amateurs. You might want to contact the CAA directly and get the truth on the matter.
(BTW. Don't e-mail the CAA but call them. I've sent some questions by e-mail over the last few months and even though the automatic reply machine promises a human reply within 10 working days, it took them almost a month, recently, to write a response.)
Stocker, we need more details: type of license, date issued (or renewed), what type or class rating you have, when that was last renewed, how many hours you have in each different type or class in the last 12 months, including instruction hours. Etc. Etc.
And then again, what you hear over here is pure speculation and guesswork from a bunch of amateurs. You might want to contact the CAA directly and get the truth on the matter.
(BTW. Don't e-mail the CAA but call them. I've sent some questions by e-mail over the last few months and even though the automatic reply machine promises a human reply within 10 working days, it took them almost a month, recently, to write a response.)
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ppl sep renewal
My bi-annual was due 3rd July 08. I finished a check ride in a Lance (that I now fly) with an instructor / examiner on the 1st May 08. It appeared that this was too early to count as a renewal so I planned to do another hour in good time but work, weather etc got in the way.
As I couldn't reposition the Lance (renewal lapsed) I booked a flight at a flying club for the 13th July, the instructor on checking my licence found that as I had missed renewal prior to the 3rd July I would have to take a test (LST).
Couldn't believe it at first but there you are, did the test in an unfamiliar ac, got signed off, forms sent into the CAA and it cost me 60 squid more than a check ride as it was a test!
It was a very useful hour as it happened and most enjoyable in a very docile (and very nice) Archer. I'm told countless PPLs make this mistake and many end up on the wrong side of the CAA law.
David
As I couldn't reposition the Lance (renewal lapsed) I booked a flight at a flying club for the 13th July, the instructor on checking my licence found that as I had missed renewal prior to the 3rd July I would have to take a test (LST).
Couldn't believe it at first but there you are, did the test in an unfamiliar ac, got signed off, forms sent into the CAA and it cost me 60 squid more than a check ride as it was a test!
It was a very useful hour as it happened and most enjoyable in a very docile (and very nice) Archer. I'm told countless PPLs make this mistake and many end up on the wrong side of the CAA law.
David
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my mistake
Clearly I was poorly advised about the timing, my difference training on the Lance would have counted and I should have been signed off as it was only 2 months to my end date of 3rd July, however, it didn't happen so I lapsed.
My point was the implication of this once it has happened, there is no option other than to take an LST, I turned up at the airfield with no idea that this was the case, fortunately the instructor was an examiner so it all worked out on the day.
David
My point was the implication of this once it has happened, there is no option other than to take an LST, I turned up at the airfield with no idea that this was the case, fortunately the instructor was an examiner so it all worked out on the day.
David
