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PPL Ground Exams
Sorry all i'm sure this question has been asked a thousand times but I cant find the answer (have now become google eyed after 2 hours reading the forum). Anyway would anyone know where in Ireland/Northern Ireland I can sit the PPL exams before going to do the flying side of things in Florida.
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I done exactly that.....Done exams and went out to florida. Came home the next day too. Personal reasons but looking back and flying with somone who did do the PPL in Florida am pleased fate stepped in.
I would consider all your options.... Its not always cheaper to do it in Florida. It does not always work out how the schools say. Anyway this is not what you asked.......
Contact any flying school near buy and they will more than likely allow you to take them around £20-£30 each one 7 in total.
Good idea doing them first
I would consider all your options.... Its not always cheaper to do it in Florida. It does not always work out how the schools say. Anyway this is not what you asked.......
Contact any flying school near buy and they will more than likely allow you to take them around £20-£30 each one 7 in total.
Good idea doing them first
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I did something similar (except not in Ireland). I rang up a few local schools and asked them if I could sit the PPL exams with them before doing a full-time flying course elsewhere.
The first call (to an incredibly well known school) was a flat "no". The second, well, they didn't seem to grasp the concept and told me that you had to sit the exams at the same school at which you fly (which is cobblers). The third however, said "yes, come along whenever" and they didn't even charge me.
Be prepared to make a few calls and be prepared for a few refusals.
The first call (to an incredibly well known school) was a flat "no". The second, well, they didn't seem to grasp the concept and told me that you had to sit the exams at the same school at which you fly (which is cobblers). The third however, said "yes, come along whenever" and they didn't even charge me.
Be prepared to make a few calls and be prepared for a few refusals.
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Hi guys,
Top tip...get as many PPL exams done at home as you can! I did 4 and am glad I did. Ive just strarted MFC in Canada and all good so far (apart form the weather!). Did exam nmero 5 today...and passed!Hurrah! The exams will set you back £45 each regardless of where you go as thats the standard CAA charge. If you are looking to do the remainder of your training with a certain FTO then i would advise that you do it there so that they dont charge you anything else i.e room hire or something bloody stupid.
Do look around and if you have time you'll soon realise that getting your PPL abroad actually can be mroe expensive by the time you've paid for your flights and accommodations. The bit you save loads on is the Hour Building if you intend to go onto ATPL's etc. But if you have the time and arent in a rush I would get your PPL in the UK and then go abroad just for a short burst of say, a month, to build your hours. That should save you a fair wadge!
Good luck whatever you decide!
Top tip...get as many PPL exams done at home as you can! I did 4 and am glad I did. Ive just strarted MFC in Canada and all good so far (apart form the weather!). Did exam nmero 5 today...and passed!Hurrah! The exams will set you back £45 each regardless of where you go as thats the standard CAA charge. If you are looking to do the remainder of your training with a certain FTO then i would advise that you do it there so that they dont charge you anything else i.e room hire or something bloody stupid.
Do look around and if you have time you'll soon realise that getting your PPL abroad actually can be mroe expensive by the time you've paid for your flights and accommodations. The bit you save loads on is the Hour Building if you intend to go onto ATPL's etc. But if you have the time and arent in a rush I would get your PPL in the UK and then go abroad just for a short burst of say, a month, to build your hours. That should save you a fair wadge!
Good luck whatever you decide!
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£45 each for PPL exams??
I pay £11.75 per exam I pass. That's the CAA fee (which they don't charge unless you pass). School donesn't charge anything, although it is my FTO.
Weather is now playing a real big part in the amount of time its taking to get my PPL(A) in the UK. I was doing well last year and early this year, but I haven't flown for 6 weeks now
. I'm planning on finishing PPL here and then abroad for some hour building.
I agree with chris-squire that going abroad doesn't mean a PPL for peanuts. When I was looking I found I wasn't really gonna save a load of cash. I'm currently learning at a UK International Airport which is good for keeping you on your toes. And since I'll be doing most of my flying in the UK, I thought it better I learn here. Instructors also fly for UK based airlines so plenty of knowledge around should I need to ask anyone for help.
Hope this helps you.
I pay £11.75 per exam I pass. That's the CAA fee (which they don't charge unless you pass). School donesn't charge anything, although it is my FTO.Weather is now playing a real big part in the amount of time its taking to get my PPL(A) in the UK. I was doing well last year and early this year, but I haven't flown for 6 weeks now
. I'm planning on finishing PPL here and then abroad for some hour building.I agree with chris-squire that going abroad doesn't mean a PPL for peanuts. When I was looking I found I wasn't really gonna save a load of cash. I'm currently learning at a UK International Airport which is good for keeping you on your toes. And since I'll be doing most of my flying in the UK, I thought it better I learn here. Instructors also fly for UK based airlines so plenty of knowledge around should I need to ask anyone for help.
Hope this helps you.
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Apologies for bringing this thread back up but does anyone reccommend anywhere in Northern Ireland to sit my CAA ground exams? I am self studying and just need to sit the exams somewhere. I have been quoted £45 per exam at one facility which seems pretty steep
The CAA do not make any charge for PPL exams (unless they have introduced one very recently). They recommend a fee of £45 per exam. This fee does not go to the CAA, but is retained by the school that is providing the exams.
Schools are permitted to charge any lower fee if they wish. In some cases schools do not charge any exam fee for candidates who are also carrying out their flying training with them. The same schools may charge the full £45 for each exam for candidates who intend to do their flying elsewhere.
Schools are permitted to charge any lower fee if they wish. In some cases schools do not charge any exam fee for candidates who are also carrying out their flying training with them. The same schools may charge the full £45 for each exam for candidates who intend to do their flying elsewhere.
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Hi guys, sorry to barge in, but can you tell me how long after taking the exams you have to do the flight training? Is there a time limit between each exam and the next? Hope I'm making sense.
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Once you attempt your first theory exam, you have until the end of that month plus 18 months to pass the full set. Once you've got them all, you then have a further two years to have your PPL issued.
From CAP 804;
No time limit between exams/sittings.
Once you attempt your first theory exam, you have until the end of that month plus 18 months to pass the full set. Once you've got them all, you then have a further two years to have your PPL issued.
From CAP 804;
FCL.025 Theoretical knowledge examinations for the issue of licences
(a) Responsibilities of the applicant
(1) Applicants shall take the entire set of examinations for a specific licence or rating under the responsibility of one Member State.
(2) Applicants shall only take the examination when recommended by the approved training organisation (ATO) responsible for their training, once they have completed the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction to a satisfactory standard.
(3) The recommendation by an ATO shall be valid for 12 months. If the applicant has failed to attempt at least one theoretical knowledge examination paper within this period of validity, the need for further training shall be determined by the ATO, based on the needs of the applicant.
(b) Pass standards
(1) A pass in an examination paper will be awarded to an applicant achieving at least 75% of the marks allocated to that paper. There is no penalty marking.
(2) Unless otherwise determined in this Part, an applicant has successfully completed the required theoretical knowledge examination for the appropriate pilot licence or rating when he/she has passed all the required examination papers within a period of 18 months counted from the end of the calendar month when the applicant first attempted an examination.
(3) If an applicant has failed to pass one of the examination papers within 4 attempts, or has failed to pass all papers within either 6 sittings or the period mentioned in paragraph (2), he/she shall re-take the complete set of examination papers.
Before re-taking the examinations, the applicant shall undertake further training at an ATO. The extent and scope of the training needed shall be determined by the training organisation, based on the needs of the applicant.
(c) Validity period
(1) The successful completion of the theoretical knowledge examinations will be valid:
(i) for the issue of a private pilot licence....for a period of 24 months; the periods in (i) shall be counted from the day when the pilot successfully completes the theoretical knowledge examination, in accordance with (b)(2).
(a) Responsibilities of the applicant
(1) Applicants shall take the entire set of examinations for a specific licence or rating under the responsibility of one Member State.
(2) Applicants shall only take the examination when recommended by the approved training organisation (ATO) responsible for their training, once they have completed the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction to a satisfactory standard.
(3) The recommendation by an ATO shall be valid for 12 months. If the applicant has failed to attempt at least one theoretical knowledge examination paper within this period of validity, the need for further training shall be determined by the ATO, based on the needs of the applicant.
(b) Pass standards
(1) A pass in an examination paper will be awarded to an applicant achieving at least 75% of the marks allocated to that paper. There is no penalty marking.
(2) Unless otherwise determined in this Part, an applicant has successfully completed the required theoretical knowledge examination for the appropriate pilot licence or rating when he/she has passed all the required examination papers within a period of 18 months counted from the end of the calendar month when the applicant first attempted an examination.
(3) If an applicant has failed to pass one of the examination papers within 4 attempts, or has failed to pass all papers within either 6 sittings or the period mentioned in paragraph (2), he/she shall re-take the complete set of examination papers.
Before re-taking the examinations, the applicant shall undertake further training at an ATO. The extent and scope of the training needed shall be determined by the training organisation, based on the needs of the applicant.
(c) Validity period
(1) The successful completion of the theoretical knowledge examinations will be valid:
(i) for the issue of a private pilot licence....for a period of 24 months; the periods in (i) shall be counted from the day when the pilot successfully completes the theoretical knowledge examination, in accordance with (b)(2).
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Yes I did the same thing before I went to Florida. There was a chap at the golf course at Bournemouth Airport who ran courses for the PPL exams.
Can't remember his name though. Sorry.
Can't remember his name though. Sorry.
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Well, being as he sets himself up as a PPL groundschool specialist, you would think that he would actually know the applicable rules. From the MGS website;
This is not correct, the actual time frame is currently as follows, from LASORS section C 1.3;
For how it will be from 17th September, see post #12
You must complete the last written exam 18 months from when you took your first exam, you then have a further 2 years to take your flight test from your last written exam.
An applicant shall be deemed to have successfully completed the theoretical examinations for the JAR-FCL PPL(A) when awarded a pass in all of the above examinations within a period of 18 months counted from the end of the calendar month when the applicant first attempted the examination. A pass will be accepted for the grant of a JAR-FCL PPL(A) during the 24 months from the date of successfully completing all of the theoretical knowledge examinations.
(2) Applicants shall only take the examination when recommended by the approved training organisation (ATO) responsible for their training, once they have completed the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction to a satisfactory standard.
(3) If an applicant has failed to pass one of the examination papers within 4 attempts, or has failed to pass all papers within either 6 sittings or the period mentioned in paragraph (2), he/she shall re-take the complete set of examination papers.
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(2) Applicants shall only take the examination when recommended by the approved training organisation (ATO) responsible for their training, once they have completed the appropriate elements of the training course of theoretical knowledge instruction to a satisfactory standard.
This makes it impossible with the current UK (7) exams!
Doesn't that mean mandatory ground school in the PPL?
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Gosh that's going to be a shock for some people.
When is this coming in?
Currently you can self study for the lot and just turn up at the RF to sit the exams.
How are RFs ( => ATOs) going to structure this stuff? Are they going to buy in some study material to hand out (I mean sell
) to the punters - like a number of FTOs bought the PPSC stuff which they flog for ~£1000?
When is this coming in?
Currently you can self study for the lot and just turn up at the RF to sit the exams.
How are RFs ( => ATOs) going to structure this stuff? Are they going to buy in some study material to hand out (I mean sell
) to the punters - like a number of FTOs bought the PPSC stuff which they flog for ~£1000?