PPL with Mutli engine rating. Is this a good idea
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Another thought - especially for those who bang on about potential engine failure during over water crossings......using an old twin (as opposed to an old single) doubles your chances of having that engine failure.
Now you could be in the same low level, inclement weather, no VHF nav aids situation - but asymmetric, too! Deep joy.
Risk assessment is a wonderful thing, eh? Anybody know where I can rent a Trislander?
Doh! That triples my chance of an engine failure!
Now you could be in the same low level, inclement weather, no VHF nav aids situation - but asymmetric, too! Deep joy.
Risk assessment is a wonderful thing, eh? Anybody know where I can rent a Trislander?
Doh! That triples my chance of an engine failure!
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Keygrip, that argument is just plain stupid. I guess people use it to justify the fact they are flying a SE.
Many SE pilots had engine faillures and emergency landed in a rough field.
Many ME pilots had an engine faillure or a precautionairy shutdown in flight and landed on an airport.
You make the choice.
Dead fatality accident rate is higher in Twins because: landing with 1 engine is not always noted at for ex. NTSB so these emergencies aren't logged, Twins fly in much more adverse weather, so when something goes really wrong in a twin, it goes really wrong. Just as it would be in a SE. If you are current and within limits you are less likely to get into a flat spin so IMHO flying twins IS safer.
Many SE pilots had engine faillures and emergency landed in a rough field.
Many ME pilots had an engine faillure or a precautionairy shutdown in flight and landed on an airport.
You make the choice.
Dead fatality accident rate is higher in Twins because: landing with 1 engine is not always noted at for ex. NTSB so these emergencies aren't logged, Twins fly in much more adverse weather, so when something goes really wrong in a twin, it goes really wrong. Just as it would be in a SE. If you are current and within limits you are less likely to get into a flat spin so IMHO flying twins IS safer.
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There is no doubt an engine failure in a twin is at least 2x more likely than in a single. I say "at least" because of longer control runs (both cables and wiring). In practice, a given-budget pilot is likely to be flying a much older twin than a single, which makes the reliability scenario even worse.
There is no doubt that enroute this is far less likely to be a problem (exceptions include having terrain above the SE ceiling for the current weight, etc) than in a single.
But once you land you are stuck there. So with a twin you are 2x more likely to be stuck somewhere due to an engine problem than with a single.
However, total engine failures are very rare, which is no doubt why so many pilots vote with their wallets and spend their money on a better equipped and better condition single. I certainly would, every time.
There is no doubt that enroute this is far less likely to be a problem (exceptions include having terrain above the SE ceiling for the current weight, etc) than in a single.
But once you land you are stuck there. So with a twin you are 2x more likely to be stuck somewhere due to an engine problem than with a single.
However, total engine failures are very rare, which is no doubt why so many pilots vote with their wallets and spend their money on a better equipped and better condition single. I certainly would, every time.
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First Principal.
Long held interest in flying DC3s stimulated by flying in the back of one of these around Central America many years ago. Recent trip to Tempelhof to relive route flown by many of these craft in Berlin airlift.
Always felt would like to have flown these for a living (but that was many years ago in one's youth !)
EB
Long held interest in flying DC3s stimulated by flying in the back of one of these around Central America many years ago. Recent trip to Tempelhof to relive route flown by many of these craft in Berlin airlift.
Always felt would like to have flown these for a living (but that was many years ago in one's youth !)
EB
Lucky you to fly the airlift route! I first read of it in Leon Uris' Armageddon and of course 'Air Bridge' amongst others. It was a tremendous undertaking and something that will be a lasting tribute to the DC3 as well as all the people involved.
It's funny you mentioned it because the first time I put my hands on the control wheel of a DC3 the Berlin airlift was what I thought about - and I've often talked about it since. There is such a sense of taking part in history when one flys - or works on - one of these. It's something akin to the rate of the current computer revolution to think that it was only thrity years after the Wright Bros that the DC3 first flew but I doubt somehow that we'll see computers still working, usefully, 70 or more years later
So well done on the MER, I don't know what working Daks there are in your neck of the woods but I hope you get the chance to fly one. Like any tailwheel machine they're a bit tricky to taxi and of course you initially push the control column in different directions than the Seneca when you're taking off or landing
but they're definately worth hanging out for if you get the opportunity. A lot noisier, consume as many gallons an hour as the Seneca does litres, they leak too, but it's all part of the character that makes a DC3.
Cheers, FP.
It's funny you mentioned it because the first time I put my hands on the control wheel of a DC3 the Berlin airlift was what I thought about - and I've often talked about it since. There is such a sense of taking part in history when one flys - or works on - one of these. It's something akin to the rate of the current computer revolution to think that it was only thrity years after the Wright Bros that the DC3 first flew but I doubt somehow that we'll see computers still working, usefully, 70 or more years later
So well done on the MER, I don't know what working Daks there are in your neck of the woods but I hope you get the chance to fly one. Like any tailwheel machine they're a bit tricky to taxi and of course you initially push the control column in different directions than the Seneca when you're taking off or landing
but they're definately worth hanging out for if you get the opportunity. A lot noisier, consume as many gallons an hour as the Seneca does litres, they leak too, but it's all part of the character that makes a DC3.Cheers, FP.
