Do my hours still count?

[TicketyBlue]

I've logged 17 hours in my logbook while doing my PPL in 1994/95. I had to chuck it due to family/lack of cash and the usual commitments. I'm now going to do the JAR PPL and realise that I'll be more or less starting from scratch. However, my question is, do my 17 hours logged still contribute to the 45 hours minimum requirement?

Thanks in advance.

[tigerbatics]

Yes, but they probably won't help alot after so long away.

[tangovictor]

i doubt it would really matter, very very few people pass, within the minium hours, so just enjoy your retraining

[TicketyBlue]

Thanks for your replies. I know I'll be starting over, I was just curious if my previously logged hours still "counted".

[eltonioni]

Depends if you think you can do your PPL in 28 hours

[radicalrabit]

old hours

Just found my log book from '84 with 4 hours 50 mins in it.. so I am not going to break any records in going solo time either!

Just as a matter of interest while I am here, I am looking for people interested in some flying our PA28 when it gets up here to Barton in April.

[twistedenginestarter]

You can ask the CAA. I had to restart from scratch. The CAA made some sort of concession - I can't remember what, but I had around 300 hours and had passed the CPL mini-GFT and done an IR. I'm not sure whether 17 hours is going to make a big difference. Worth asking though.

[millard64]

I too had hours from previous training (28.5 Hrs) back in 1999 and they certainly do count towards the grant of a PPL. As mentioned previously It is almost like starting again after a lapse of continuity due to time since you last flew.The only advantage is that if you have any solo hours you don't have to do them again and it gives you an appreciation of how an aeroplane fly's and handles. It took me another 60 Hrs to pass my PPL last year 2007 but saying that it was learning in a different aircraft type. Enjoy every minute of your training and welcome back to the left hand seat.

[BackPacker]

There is a caveat here, I think.

Any hours flown in a SEP(A) towards the issue of a PPL SEP(A) count in full. I don't think these hours expire, like your exams do.

But hours flown in a helicopter, TMG, Microlight, glider or any other non-SEP(A) type will only count to a certain extent. Details in LASORS, as usual.

Twistedenginestarter, was this what happened in your case?

[Whopity]

There is an interesting statement in JAR-FCL 1.005(b)(1) which says training commenced prior to 1 July 1999 according to national regulations will be acceptable for the issue of licences and ratings under national regulations, provided that training and testing is completed before 30th June 2002. This was effectively the JAA transition period.

At the end of the day hours are hours and any training conducted in accordance with ICAO should be acceptable. To get a PPL you only need 25 hours dual training and 10 hours solo; the remaining 10 hours can be any other flying. The chances are that you will take at least another 35 hours so you really should not have a problem adding in the 17 you already have.

[twistedenginestarter]

I honestly can't remember the details but I think it netted out that it was left up to the flying clubs concerned to decide how many hours were required. We're going back a good 10 years so I guess it would be different now.