Llanbedr Airfield
Llanbedr local support
Lets be quite clear here folks.
It is quite obvious (as made very clear at the public meeting) that the LOCALS in Llanbedr want their airfield to reopen.
The Chairman of the local authority wants to see it providing a service and jobs to the community.
The only people against it are a FEW individuals who are still using the Snowdonia Society as a vehicle for their own political purpose (but not for much longer).
I therefore urge interested parties to write to the SNPA in support of Kembles aims, as in the end this counts far more than posting here.
The indisputable fact is that Llanbedr does not need planning permission for aviation purposes',it will need change of use for the buildings that are to be used as non aviation industrial facilities, but that will be readily granted by the SNPA.
When the Snowdonia Society gets a replacement CEO i suspect the attitude there will become much less political.
Follow the locals lead,and get this facility open again.
Pobjoy
It is quite obvious (as made very clear at the public meeting) that the LOCALS in Llanbedr want their airfield to reopen.
The Chairman of the local authority wants to see it providing a service and jobs to the community.
The only people against it are a FEW individuals who are still using the Snowdonia Society as a vehicle for their own political purpose (but not for much longer).
I therefore urge interested parties to write to the SNPA in support of Kembles aims, as in the end this counts far more than posting here.
The indisputable fact is that Llanbedr does not need planning permission for aviation purposes',it will need change of use for the buildings that are to be used as non aviation industrial facilities, but that will be readily granted by the SNPA.
When the Snowdonia Society gets a replacement CEO i suspect the attitude there will become much less political.
Follow the locals lead,and get this facility open again.
Pobjoy
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It seems things may now be moving forward, unless of course more spanners are thrown in the works.
Llanbedr Air Day 2010
Llanbedr Air Day 2010
Llanbedr Airshow
Not a planning issue apparently and welcomed by the locals,so hopefully Radio Wales will be keen to support it !
May have to ease off the napalm though.
May have to ease off the napalm though.
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Have heard news that the airshow is not confirmed cancelled yet but looking unlikely due to time constraints. However, they will almost certainly do a fly-in this year?
Can anyone confirm?
Can anyone confirm?
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Might be a good idea for CAERNARFON to update their AD 2-EGCK-1-5 page dated 27 Aug 09:
b. Arriving aircraft. From the south and southeast should call Llanbedr ATC on 122.500 MHz at least 5 minutes before abeam Llanbedr aerodrome . . .
b. Arriving aircraft. From the south and southeast should call Llanbedr ATC on 122.500 MHz at least 5 minutes before abeam Llanbedr aerodrome . . .
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Found this via Google news Appeal to former workers to get airfield off the ground | News
It says they are looking for people who used to work at the airfield to help provide details for the planning application.
It says they are looking for people who used to work at the airfield to help provide details for the planning application.
Llanbedr "missed opportunity"
Unfortunatelty the delay caused by pressure from the Snowdonia society (or rather from the former CEO of that organisation) combined with bad advice given to the SNPA (the planning authority) meant the window of opportuninty that was there a couple of years ago has vanished.
The loser's are the locals who welcomed the idea of having some quality jobs in the area and who supported the opening of a civil airfield.
I suspect that in the current economic climate there are few organisations who will risk getting involved with such a venture after having seen how the situation was handled.
With potential grant money now dwindling and the general market very quiet even the Kembles of this world are not going to mount a crusade with so little to gain.
Its a lesson in planning politics where the real locals (who wanted the operation to go ahead) had their hopes dashed by a minority element that used a charity organisation as their own soapbox.The only good news is that the former CEO who masterminded the campaign against Kemble did not get elected into parliament.Actually it was not good news it was GREAT news.
The loser's are the locals who welcomed the idea of having some quality jobs in the area and who supported the opening of a civil airfield.
I suspect that in the current economic climate there are few organisations who will risk getting involved with such a venture after having seen how the situation was handled.
With potential grant money now dwindling and the general market very quiet even the Kembles of this world are not going to mount a crusade with so little to gain.
Its a lesson in planning politics where the real locals (who wanted the operation to go ahead) had their hopes dashed by a minority element that used a charity organisation as their own soapbox.The only good news is that the former CEO who masterminded the campaign against Kemble did not get elected into parliament.Actually it was not good news it was GREAT news.
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Call me a cynic but I never could see a business model for Llanbedr working without aircraft scrapping taking place there.
Coltishall is now going to be a major dismantling site which makes sense given its better location.
The Kemble application could have sailed through if they had applied for change of use instead of try to get a certificate of lawful use.
Coltishall is now going to be a major dismantling site which makes sense given its better location.
The Kemble application could have sailed through if they had applied for change of use instead of try to get a certificate of lawful use.
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Phil space, you may be labouring under the illusion that the Kemble Air Services who operate Kemble and were proposing to operate Llanbedr scrap aircraft, they don't.
Air Salvage International has an operation on the Kemble site and they certainly "recycle" aircraft.
I don't who is doing the Coltishall operation do you?
Air Salvage International has an operation on the Kemble site and they certainly "recycle" aircraft.
I don't who is doing the Coltishall operation do you?
Llanbedr "no jobs the saga continues"
There was NEVER any evidence that aircraft recycling was an option at llanbedr as apart from anything else the location is hardly "central" for the transport of materials.
Kemble have a very good history of making good industrial use of surplus buildings and that is what would have provided a large proportion of the new employment.
A change of use application would have been very interesting.
"WE WISH TO CHANGE ITS USE FROM AN AIRFIELD TO AN AIRFIELD"
The argument was all about FLYING not about using the buildings for other purposes.
Shame the SNPA did not listen to the locals who live there as opposed to taking a "flawed legal opinion" from a very biased source !!!!
Kemble have a very good history of making good industrial use of surplus buildings and that is what would have provided a large proportion of the new employment.
A change of use application would have been very interesting.
"WE WISH TO CHANGE ITS USE FROM AN AIRFIELD TO AN AIRFIELD"
The argument was all about FLYING not about using the buildings for other purposes.
Shame the SNPA did not listen to the locals who live there as opposed to taking a "flawed legal opinion" from a very biased source !!!!
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So reading between the lines of what Pobjoy has posted it appears that Kemble have pulled out?
News on the ground is that this project is not going forward.
I speak as someone who has been in the area for 30 years.
This was never going to be a GA field project.
Looks like Pobjoy etc have pulled out as well.
News on the ground is that this project is not going forward.
I speak as someone who has been in the area for 30 years.
This was never going to be a GA field project.
Looks like Pobjoy etc have pulled out as well.
Pulling out from what !!!
To pull out you would have to be IN to start with.
Kemble tried to progress the situation but as stated here the delay's have probably scuppered any real chance of getting started now in the present economic situation.
To my knowledge no one else was involved with Kemble to take on the site and the only interest myself and others posting here had was to see it being available for GA use whilst providing jobs and other income for the local area.
However with the new government needing to save money and dispose of unwanted assets perhaps this will spur things along although an aviation option may now not be the only one.
Thankfully it is to remote to become a storage area for unsold cars.
Who can guess at what the Welsh Assembly will want to do now perhaps they will invite the "Top Gear" production there.
Kemble tried to progress the situation but as stated here the delay's have probably scuppered any real chance of getting started now in the present economic situation.
To my knowledge no one else was involved with Kemble to take on the site and the only interest myself and others posting here had was to see it being available for GA use whilst providing jobs and other income for the local area.
However with the new government needing to save money and dispose of unwanted assets perhaps this will spur things along although an aviation option may now not be the only one.
Thankfully it is to remote to become a storage area for unsold cars.
Who can guess at what the Welsh Assembly will want to do now perhaps they will invite the "Top Gear" production there.
